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  LPub: Torsos and Legs
Posted by: Daniel Goerner - 2012-05-07, 12:46 - Forum: LDraw File Processing and Conversion - Replies (5)

Is there a way to "group" Torsos (Torso + 2 Arms + 2 Hands) and Legs (Hips and 2 Legs), so LPub counts them as 1 Part (and shows them as that in the part window) instead of 5 or 2 separate parts? I tried the "group" function in MLCad without knowing what it really does but that didn't work in LPub. I don't like using shortcuts, because I want to be able to modify the parts without editing the dat. And I would have to add the modified dat to my model so others can see it.

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  STATUS Electric Plugs on PT
Posted by: Steffen - 2012-05-07, 12:40 - Forum: Parts Authoring - No Replies

I'd like to use this post as a "status" info page for everybody working on the PT
regarding the review summary page of the Electric Plugs:
http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptreviewsum...ctricplugs

Many issues of these already have been solved, like:
- there had been PARTS\S files which wrongly were subparts, but in fact were an assembly of screw plus pin
- putting the metal pins into separate files
etc.

Some problems are still unsolved. One very critical which currently prevents a release of these plugs is:
(A)
The geometry of plug 766a.dat is self-contradictionary.
Its center plug diameter is modeled differently than its corresponding hole.
Fixing this has a huge impact on existing official parts, as all plug sockets which can receive this plug
need updating in case the diameter is corrected at the plug.

Other current problems:
(B)
Compared with the other 2x2 lightbricks, the lightbrick 266ac01.dat has modeled its plug sockets
at a different Y position. Either this part is wrong, or all other 2x2 lightbricks.

©
Either plug 766a.dat is too thick, or the 2x2 lightbrick has the plug socket positioned wrongly. This can be seen
at this assembly of real set 7866, where the plug collides:
1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4169.dat
1 0 0 -122 -1 0 0 -1 1 0 0 0 -1 0 512p01.dat
1 0 0 -122 23 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 -1 0 266bc02.dat
1 16 0 -102 10.5 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 -1 0 766ac02.dat

(D)
I currently have problems getting the thin plug (Type 1) into the existing plastic plug portion 567c04.dat :-(

Any help here, be it calipers, thoughts or advice is well appreciated.
I think the plugs may not leave without these corrections Undecided

I will update this page as a solution progresses.

Please find attached a test assembly of all the electric plugs which allows easy comparison.



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  New beta version of mklist
Posted by: Tim Gould - 2012-05-05, 2:57 - Forum: All Other Programs. - Replies (1)

Hi all,

In light of the recent discussion on 64 character limits I decided to see if I could write my own version that could shorten descriptions to unique 64 byte versions as an option. It turns out I could.

So then I added an extra feature, the ability to hide files from parts.lst based on their first character. So if you don't want colour shortcuts you can ignore them by using the description (once that's sorted).

Anyway, I've attached the source so if anyone wants to fiddle with it, and ideally try to break it. Download, rename to mklist.C and compile with no special options "$(CPP) mklist.C -o mklist.exe".

I've also compiled a version using mingw on Windows 7 but I don't know how portable it will be.

Tim



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Thumbs Up 30475.dat
Posted by: Daniel Goerner - 2012-05-04, 10:19 - Forum: Part Requests - Replies (4)

http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cg.../30475.dat

Maybe someone who knows what he does can work on this part?

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  2D (ortho) editing
Posted by: Roland Melkert - 2012-05-03, 20:19 - Forum: LDraw Editors and Viewers - Replies (20)

Hi all, I've been working on LDCad's 2D (Ortho) editing mode on and off lately, and I'm almost ready with the basic view handling. Next on the to do list is to put in special editing tools for that mode.

I already have some ideas, but at this stage I could still implement something completely different if brought to my attention.

For starters it will have mlcad's way of selection handling (always in front rectangle), everything else is still open to suggestions.

So I was wondering if anyone else has some pointers/ideas concerning working in 2D mode? Especially from the people saying they hate 'those 3D only editors' Smile

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  let's drop the 64 chars part title limit, please
Posted by: Steffen - 2012-05-03, 18:12 - Forum: Parts Authoring - Replies (36)

I'd like to ask if we could drop the 64 chars par title limit, please.

Which ancient software relies on that?

The current force of this limit leads to the effect that important keywords
of the title must be abbreviated, so they cannot be grepped properly anymore,
or left out completely.

All modern software should be able to treat a first line in the file of arbitrary length, IMHO.

I'd like to ask the LSC for a drop of this limit, please.

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  LDPatternCreator - Release 1.3.4
Posted by: Nils Schmidt - 2012-05-02, 17:18 - Forum: Parts Author Tools - Replies (14)

Hey,

Here is the new LPC 1.3.4.


Please uninstall older versions of this software before installing a new version.
Your configuration won't be deleted if you have already version greater than 1.3.1 installed on your machine.

Change log:

New features:

  • The program imports subfiles of primitives
  • The projection data import now parses linetype 2 and 5
  • DAT filenames with spaces are supported
  • You can press the Ctrl+C/X/V or Del key to change the text displayed in on-screen textboxes
  • It is impossible to group triangles which are adjacent to an existing group
  • The subfile import does inline all required subparts/primitives of the subfile
  • The highlight around a selected triangle that exactly match a template triangle is shown
  • Vertices from projection data remain locked
Fixed Bugs from 1.3.X:
  • LPC crashes if the user sets a custom colour in the toolbar which is not defined in LDConfig.ldr
  • LPC crashes if the user makes excessive use of the "Merge to nearest line" functions.
  • The undo/redo functions crash the application under certain circumstances and deform a pattern.
  • It is possible to group triangles which are adjacent to an existing group (misfeature).

(see full list of tickets for 1.3.4)

I included a short README.pdf in the installation directory.


Cheers & Leg Godt


Nils

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  "normal" vs. "Mursten" vs. "Minitalia"
Posted by: Steffen - 2012-05-02, 11:26 - Forum: Parts Authoring - Replies (29)

We currently have a numbering problem on the PT, and the more I think over it, the more complicated it gets.

Can we find a solution together?

LEGO itself has produced variants of their own bricks: "Mursten" and "Minitalia".

"Mursten" predates the bricks of today. For example, the 2x4 Brick existed in several "slotted" variants, e.g.
http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cg...3001mc.dat
The word "Mursten" is composed of the 2 danish words "mur" (meaning "wall") and "sten" (has the same origin as "stone",
but of course means "brick" here). Thus "mur sten" are "bricks to build a wall".

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"Minitalia", as I learned today, was a variant of LEGO in the 1970's, which they had created to circumvent
importing rules of Italy at that time:
http://www.lucajuventino.altervista.org/...lia_EN.htm
http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/Minitalia
http://www.brickset.com/browse/themes/?theme=Minitalia

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Both variants have differences in the appearance of the parts.
No problem for us, we can model them:
http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi?q=mursten
http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi?q=minitalia
We already also have "Minitalia" primitives - no problem so far.

However, we currently _have_ a problem with the part numbers:

For the "mursten" variant, the current status quo on the PT is to take the "normal" part number, append an "m" and then
"something else". Example: for the normal 2x4 brick (3001.dat), the parts tracker currently carries the mursten variants
3001ma.dat
3001mb.dat
3001mc.dat
3001md.dat
3001me.dat
, cf. http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi?q=3001m

But for the "minitalia" variant, just an "a" gets appended:
3001a.dat
, cf. http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi?q=minitalia

That's reasonable, because the "minitalia" variant 3001a.dat in fact is just a moulding variant of the 3001.dat.
If you see it this way, things could just stay as they are now.

But on the other hand, for LEGO most probably these parts never carried the number 3001,
because both required completely separate moulds.

I now see the numberings
3001.dat
3001ma.dat
3001a.dat
clashing. The "m" for example could mean "mursten" or "minitalia". I don't understand why "mursten" gets its "m",
and "minitalia" does not.

We have several opportunities here, as
- we have u.....dat numbers
- we don't have a 8.3 filename restriction anymore.
Thus, we have several solution alternatives:

(SOLUTION A)
leave things as they are now, i.e.:
"mursten" is "normal part number plus m plus something else"
"minitalia" is "normal part number plus a,b,c,d,e, ... moulding variant suffix"

(SOLUTION B)
use separate, new u.......dat numbers for "mursten" and "minitalia" parts

(SOLUTION C)
use long filenames and make e.g.
3001.dat
3001-minitalia.dat
3001-mursten-a.dat
3001-mursten-b.dat
3001-mursten-c.dat

My problem is: each day I think this over, I favor a different solution :-(((((
solution A is very simple
solution B is very systematic
solution C is very easy to understand

what should we do?
Is there a solution D which I forgot? Which one do you favor?

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  Minifig Torso patterned part naming convention extended
Posted by: Chris Dee - 2012-05-01, 6:47 - Forum: LDraw.org Announcements - Replies (15)

With the (currently 7 x 16) new minifig torsos in the Collectable Minifig series, the existing 973pXX naming convention cannot cope.

Please use 973pc[series : 1-7][sequence : 1-9,a-f].dat for these.

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  Happy Design Week
Posted by: Dorota Sauer - 2012-04-30, 21:50 - Forum: MOCs (My Own Creations) - Replies (4)

Hi Everyone. We started on eurobricks.com spreading the word about our idea of MinuteBot. But now we are much further than just spreading the word. We want to share the fun of building with the Base even before it is out, so we set up a design challenge. We call for all creative forces to join in the quest. To give a foretaste of the MinuteBot Base the last update was issued together with a set of 3 .dat files to use in LDraw (thanks to great deal of help we received through this forum). To prove it is not a commerial project everyone that submits a project, no matter how simple or advanced, is rewarded with a double up on the amount of Bases one pledged for. The challenge is for everyone, so please feel free to post and share the file with whoever interested.
Please see the details of the Happy Design Week and join in!
Get the file and share your design on http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/3780...sts/217507

Please spread the news.
Cheers!
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