BrickLink colour changes


BrickLink colour changes
#1
Hi all,

BrickLink just changed the names for the Flesh colours: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1178151

Actually, it started yesterday with replacing “Flesh” with “Nougat” but now they replaced the colour “Dark Flesh” with “Medium Brown” and added “Dark Nougat” (previously conflated with “Earth Orange”).

Whoopee… maybe.
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(2020-02-01, 23:55)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: Hi all,

BrickLink just changed the names for the Flesh colours: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1178151

Actually, it started yesterday with replacing “Flesh” with “Nougat” but now they replaced the colour “Dark Flesh” with “Medium Brown” and added “Dark Nougat” (previously conflated with “Earth Orange”).
Thanks for the heads up...
Speaking of things affecting LDConfig.ldr, two new opalescent "colors" surfaced:
360 Transparent with Opalescence and 363 Transparent Brown with Opalescence (https://www.newelementary.com/2020/02/le...cence.html)
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#3
(2020-02-01, 23:55)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: Whoopee… maybe.

I say we have to correct ldconfig now, for another reason.
Ldraw code 86 is exactly the same as ldraw code 128. Both have RGB = #AD6140


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I think we should change ldraw code 86 to match LEGOID 217 and use the name "Medium Brown"
And also remove the word "Flesh", and use "Nougat" in ldraw code 78, 84 and 92
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(2020-02-02, 10:12)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: I say we have to correct ldconfig now, for another reason.
Ldraw code 86 is exactly the same as ldraw code 128. Both have RGB = #AD6140



I think we should change ldraw code 86 to match LEGOID 217 and use the name "Medium Brown"
And also remove the word "Flesh", and use "Nougat" in ldraw code 78, 84 and 92

Sounds good. I'll update the file an post it.

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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(2020-02-02, 8:42)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: Thanks for the heads up...
Speaking of things affecting LDConfig.ldr, two new opalescent "colors" surfaced:
360 Transparent with Opalescence and 363 Transparent Brown with Opalescence (https://www.newelementary.com/2020/02/le...cence.html)

We are trying to get the RGBs for the new opal colors. As long as we don't have them it doesn't make any sense adding them.

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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(2020-02-02, 11:23)Willy Tschager Wrote: Sounds good. I'll update the file an post it.

w.

Maybe we should wait and see what else will be changed?

Did you read the message on Bricklink?
What do they mean by this, "Changes to the color names in Item Names are forthcoming."?
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(2020-02-02, 11:33)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: Did you read the message on Bricklink?
What do they mean by this, "Changes to the color names in Item Names are forthcoming."?

I'd say Chris has to fasttrack all these:

https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi...ight+flesh

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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(2020-02-02, 11:49)Willy Tschager Wrote: I'd say Chris has to fasttrack all these:

https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi...ight+flesh

w.

If you scan the library for only Flesh there is 115 files to change.....

https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi?q=flesh
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(2020-02-03, 22:47)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: If you scan the library for only Flesh there is 115 files to change.....

https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi?q=flesh

All official parts that use 'flesh' in the description have been cycled through the Parts Tracker, updated to us the 'nougat' colour names and fast-tracked.
Chris (LDraw Parts Library Admin)
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#10
(2020-02-01, 23:55)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: Hi all,

BrickLink just changed the names for the Flesh colours: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1178151

Actually, it started yesterday with replacing “Flesh” with “Nougat” but now they replaced the colour “Dark Flesh” with “Medium Brown” and added “Dark Nougat” (previously conflated with “Earth Orange”).

Whoopee… maybe.

A few new name changes that aren’t in ldconfig (2022-04) yet:
— 128 Medium_Brown should be Light_Brown (conflicts with the new 370 Medium_Brown)
— 510 Fabuland_Pastel_Green has been finally recognized by BL as different from Lime and named Fabuland Lime.
— 368 Vibrant_Yellow should be Neon_Yellow (seems BL has finally settled on this one)

And (LEGO) 371 Warm Tan / (BL) 241 Medium Tan is missing (#CCA373 according to Ryan Howerter).
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(2022-08-19, 15:22)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: A few new name changes that aren’t in ldconfig (2022-04) yet:
— 128 Medium_Brown should be Light_Brown (conflicts with the new 370 Medium_Brown)
— 510 Fabuland_Pastel_Green has been finally recognized by BL as different from Lime and named Fabuland Lime.
— 368 Vibrant_Yellow should be Neon_Yellow (seems BL has finally settled on this one)

And (LEGO) 371 Warm Tan / (BL) 241 Medium Tan is missing (#CCA373 according to Ryan Howerter).

Also Bricklink now recognizes flip/flop colors as "Bionicle" ones, as well as Pearl Black
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(2022-08-19, 17:14)Max Murtazin Wrote: Also Bricklink now recognizes flip/flop colors as "Bionicle" ones, as well as Pearl Black

Yes, I forgot about them (not much into Bionicle myself and they are ‘old’ colours).

But here are the last colours added to BL, if that can help:

231: Dark Salmon
232: Satin Trans-Dark Blue
233: Satin Trans-Bright Green
234: Trans-Medium Purple
235: Reddish Gold
236: Neon Yellow
237: Bionicle Copper
238: Bionicle Gold
239: Bionicle Silver
240: Medium Brown
241: Medium Tan
242: Dark Olive Green
243: Pearl Sand Purple
244: Pearl Black
245: Lilac
246: Light Lilac
247: Little Robots Blue
248: Fabuland Lime
249: Reddish Copper
250: Metallic Copper
One needs to look at the parts they exist in to know what they really are, at least I do  Tongue
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#13
BL => LDraw
235: Reddish Gold => 189 Reddish_Gold
244: Pearl Black => 83 Metallic_Black
245: Lilac => 219 Lilac
250: Metallic Copper => 300 Metallic_Copper

BL => LEGO (=> LDraw, maybe change the name?)
237 Bionicle Copper => 176 Rep Flip/Flop
238 Bionicle Gold => 178 Yellow Flip/Flop
239 Bionicle Silver => 179 Silver Flip/Flop (=> 179 Flat_Silver)
227 Clickit Lavender => 218 Reddish Lilac (=> 218 Reddish_Lilac)
234 Trans-Medium Purple => 236 Transparent Bright Reddish Lilac (=> 44 Trans_Bright_Reddish_Lilac)

I just sent the BL => LDraw matches to the Studio dev team.  They were in the process of adding Neon Yellow and Medium Brown (the new one), so a few more colours won’t hurt… and so hurry up to tell me if there’s others I missed  Wink
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#14
If you're looking to have the LDConfig updated, the next Parts update will be in a month.
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(2022-08-19, 23:54)Orion Pobursky Wrote: If you're looking to have the LDConfig updated, the next Parts update will be in a month.

Well, as I haven’t seen any discussion here about the new colours on BrickLink, and as I don’t know how new colours are discussed and added other than what was done before with this thread, and as knowing there’s a new update coming doesn’t tell me what will be in it, especially not colours, all I was saying and all I could say is: “Eh!  In case you missed it, there’s new BL colours and names again.  And here are they and some of their matches.”

Also, as a secondary purpose, as Studio uses LDraw, and as the devs were (finally!) adding Neon Yellow & Medium Brown, I was also looking for LDraw colours that are not yet or not correctly matched to BL colours in Studio, so I could tell them (which I did for the ones I listed here) in the hope they would use the oportunity to add them to Studio too (which I think they will).


(On another note, I’ve “subscribe and receive email notification of new replies”d on this thread but I only got one for Max’s message, nothing for yours.
Or maybe I was still considered logged in when you posted?  Huh  Annoying.)
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#16
I think you took my message the wrong way. I wasn't trying to be flippant or dismissive. I was simply noting that there's time for discussion and inclusion in the next update.
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(2022-08-21, 22:56)Orion Pobursky Wrote: I think you took my message the wrong way. I wasn't trying to be flippant or dismissive. I was simply noting that there's time for discussion and inclusion in the next update.

Yeah, sorry, maybe I’m a little touchy, and, well a “there’s time” would have helped  Tongue

On the other hand, I was hoping for quick answers about the matches while the Studio devs’ attention was on colours.
Well, it may already be too late for that (you know, young ones’ short attention span… and there isn’t much time left for an August update).
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#18
I think most of our regulars are still on some sort of summer holiday or break. Summer is kind of slow in LDraw land.
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(2022-08-21, 23:27)Orion Pobursky Wrote: I think most of our regulars are still on some sort of summer holiday or break. Summer is kind of slow in LDraw land.
Someone once told me of "August frantic slowdown" 😂 ("le ralentissement effréné du mois d'août" in French...)
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(2022-08-22, 16:19)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: Someone once told me of "August frantic slowdown" 😂 ("le ralentissement effréné du mois d'août" in French...)

Big Grin
Ah, les congés payés….

Well, August is also when you can finally do things because there’s no one around to bother you with something else.
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(2022-08-19, 22:28)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: BL => LEGO (=> LDraw, maybe change the name?)
239 Bionicle Silver => 179 Silver Flip/Flop (=> 179 Flat_Silver)

Ah, this one causes a problem (in Studo at least):
BL has:
— 66 Pearl Light Gray supposed to match both LEGO 131 Silver & 296 Cool Silver 
— 96 Flat Silver supposed to match LEGO 315 Silver Metallic

LDraw has:
— 135 Pearl_Light_Grey to match LEGO 131, 296 & 315
— 179 Flat_Silver… which is then misnamed or a “real” Flat_Silver to match LEGO 315/BL 96 is missing.
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(2022-08-22, 18:07)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: Ah, this one causes a problem (in Studo at least):
BL has:
— 66 Pearl Light Gray supposed to match both LEGO 131 Silver & 296 Cool Silver 
— 96 Flat Silver supposed to match LEGO 315 Silver Metallic

LDraw has:
— 135 Pearl_Light_Grey to match LEGO 131, 296 & 315
— 179 Flat_Silver… which is then misnamed or a “real” Flat_Silver to match LEGO 315/BL 96 is missing.

BL's 96 Flat Silver also matches Lego 131 Silver, in case when part is made of "soft" plastic, like most of Bionicle weapons. Only exception are Bohrok Kal shields in Bohrok Kal sets (not any later releases of those), for some reason they are as light as the ABS parts, and due to that they are also marked as 66 Pearl Light Gray

BL's silver colors is one of the most complicated messes ever
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(2022-08-22, 18:53)Max Murtazin Wrote: BL's silver colors is one of the most complicated messes ever

Yeah, colour specialists on the the BL forum agree on that  Big Grin

Russell Callender recently said there:
Quote:The issue is that some BrickLink members in the past have seen distinctions between the colors and have registered their findings in the inventory system and to a certain extent in their listings.

Merging Flat Silver and Pearl Light Gray is something we will likely to in the future. But it needs to be planned, announced, and carried out in a way to cause the least disruption.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1349550

So, even corporate agrees, but it won’t change tomorrow.
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(2022-08-22, 19:04)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: Russell Callender recently said there:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1349550

So, even corporate agrees, but it won’t change tomorrow.

Yes, I know that Bricklink is going through some changes with the color system of theirs. I don't get tho why some stuff takes so much time. Stuff like Pearl Black requires only tweaking 4 parts, but it takes ages for them to do that, imagine how long silvers will take

Bricklink, as useful as their tools are, is very frustrating piece of company
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(2022-08-19, 15:22)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: A few new name changes that aren’t in ldconfig (2022-04) yet:
— 128 Medium_Brown should be Light_Brown (conflicts with the new 370 Medium_Brown)
— 510 Fabuland_Pastel_Green has been finally recognized by BL as different from Lime and named Fabuland Lime.
— 368 Vibrant_Yellow should be Neon_Yellow (seems BL has finally settled on this one)

And (LEGO) 371 Warm Tan / (BL) 241 Medium Tan is missing (#CCA373 according to Ryan Howerter).

I will look into this but as colors are a minefield it takes time and the right mood.

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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(2022-08-19, 15:22)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: A few new name changes that aren’t in ldconfig (2022-04) yet:
— 128 Medium_Brown should be Light_Brown (conflicts with the new 370 Medium_Brown)

I'm trying to figure out what you want me to do:

* LEGO 128 - Dark Nougat has its LDraw equivalent in 128 - Dark_Nougat
* LEGO 370 - Medium Brown has its LDraw equivalent in 370 - Medium_Brown

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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(2022-08-19, 15:22)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: — 510 Fabuland_Pastel_Green has been finally recognized by BL as different from Lime and named Fabuland Lime.
— 368 Vibrant_Yellow should be Neon_Yellow (seems BL has finally settled on this one)

I renamed these accordingly.

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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(2022-08-19, 15:22)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: And (LEGO) 371 Warm Tan / (BL) 241 Medium Tan is missing (#CCA373 according to Ryan Howerter).

371 - Medium Tan has been added.

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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(2022-10-24, 10:45)Willy Tschager Wrote: I'm trying to figure out what you want me to do:

* LEGO 128 - Dark Nougat has its LDraw equivalent in 128 - Dark_Nougat
* LEGO 370 - Medium Brown has its LDraw equivalent in 370 - Medium_Brown

w.

Sorry, I don’t know how but  I used the wrong number (or older number, when LDraw 128 & 86 were mixed?).  I meant:

In the current LDConfig,
— LDraw 86 Medium_Brown matches LEGO 217 Brown,
— LDraw 370 Medium_Brown matches LEGO 370 Medium_Brown.

So there’s two different LDraw colours with the same name.
BL solved the problem by renaming the old one (LEGO 217 / BL 91) to Light_Brown.
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(2022-08-19, 22:28)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: BL => LEGO (=> LDraw, maybe change the name?)
237 Bionicle Copper => 176 Rep Flip/Flop
238 Bionicle Gold => 178 Yellow Flip/Flop
239 Bionicle Silver => 179 Silver Flip/Flop (=> 179 Flat_Silver)

Colors are always a mess. 178 is currently matched with LEGO 147 Metallic Sand Yellow which has been replaced by LEGO 297 Warm Gold. I have to think about.

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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(2022-10-25, 15:29)Willy Tschager Wrote: Colors are always a mess. 178 is currently matched with LEGO 147 Metallic Sand Yellow which has been replaced by LEGO 297 Warm Gold. I have to think about.

w.

It was not really "replaced"

The flip flop colors were an unique series used exclusively for Bionicle masks. Metallic Sand Yellow is first proper pearl gold color
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(2022-08-19, 22:28)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: BL => LEGO (=> LDraw, maybe change the name?)
237 Bionicle Copper => 176 Rep Flip/Flop
238 Bionicle Gold => 178 Yellow Flip/Flop
239 Bionicle Silver => 179 Silver Flip/Flop (=> 179 Flat_Silver)

I made the following changes/additions:

0 // LEGOID 149 - Metallic Black
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Black   CODE 83   VALUE #0A1327   EDGE #333333   PEARLESCENT
0 // LEGOID 147 - Metallic Sand Yellow
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Dark_Gold   CODE 147   VALUE #83724F   EDGE #333333   PEARLESCENT
0  // LEGOID 176 - Red Flip-flop
0 !COLOUR Bionicle_Copper   CODE 176   VALUE #945148   EDGE #333333   PEARLESCENT
0 // LEGOID 178 - Yellow Flip-flop
0 !COLOUR Bionicle_Gold   CODE 178   VALUE #AB673A   EDGE #333333   PEARLESCENT
0 // LEGOID 179 - Silver Flip-flop
0 !COLOUR Bionicle_Silver   CODE 179   VALUE #898788    EDGE #333333    PEARLESCENT

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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(2022-08-19, 22:28)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: 234 Trans-Medium Purple => 236 Transparent Bright Reddish Lilac (=> 44 Trans_Bright_Reddish_Lilac)

The main problem here is that LEGO distinguishes between Purple/Violet/Lilac while the fan colors are all Purple.

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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Okay, so I looked into the new ldconfig.ldr in 2023-2:

Great  Heart
  • 86 (Old)Medium_Brown renamed to Light_Brown
  • 371 Medium_Tan added
  • 83 Metallic_Black renamed to Pearl_Black
  • 510 Fabuland_Pastel_Green renamed to Fabuland_Lime

What  Huh
  • 178 Flat_Dark_Gold renamed to Pearl_Yellow
  • 179 Flat_Silver renamed to Pearl_Silver
  • 176 named Pearl_Red
  • 147 named Pearl_Dark_Gold

What happened to the Bionicle_* names to match the BrickLink names?  Why revert to Peeron’s names?


Also, now that BrickLink has Bionicle Silver to match LEGO 179 Silver Flip/Flop, LDraw doesn’t have a separate silver colour to match BL 95 Flat Silver (LEGO 315 Silver Metallic only).
Studio uses LD 179 for BL 95 Flat Silver.
Should Studio switch to Pearl Light Grey instead?  Huh  It seems wrong to me.  Well, it was already wrong before….
(Plus, it’s not for the immediate future but BL plans to split BL 66 Pearl Light Gray to separate LEGO 131 Silver from LEGO 296 Cool Silver.)


Finally, if you don’t know yet, there’s a new LEGO Trans-Black colour arriving, so BL renamed
BL 13 Trans-Black to “Trans-Brown (Old Trans-Black)”
and created
BL 251 “Trans-Black (2023)”
(parentheses included and remaining for at least 6 months).
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(2023-05-05, 11:31)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: What  Huh
  • 178 Flat_Dark_Gold renamed to Pearl_Yellow
  • 179 Flat_Silver renamed to Pearl_Silver
  • 176 named Pearl_Red
  • 147 named Pearl_Dark_Gold

What happened to the Bionicle_* names to match the BrickLink names?  Why revert to Peeron’s names?

We discussed this and agreed that we don't wanna use theme names for a color but (as we do for part names) be as much as we can generic. Since those are pearl colors and we already have pearl colors "Pearl" seamed a logical choice.

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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(2023-05-05, 11:31)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: Also, now that BrickLink has Bionicle Silver to match LEGO 179 Silver Flip/Flop, LDraw doesn’t have a separate silver colour to match BL 95 Flat Silver (LEGO 315 Silver Metallic only).
Studio uses LD 179 for BL 95 Flat Silver.
Should Studio switch to Pearl Light Grey instead?  Huh  It seems wrong to me.  Well, it was already wrong before….
(Plus, it’s not for the immediate future but BL plans to split BL 66 Pearl Light Gray to separate LEGO 131 Silver from LEGO 296 Cool Silver.)

This has been discussed ad nauseam:

https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-24059-po...l#pid45467

It will stay as it is.

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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#37
I made this after the development to summarize.

   

176, 178 and 179 are all related. Lego use "Flip-flop" and Bricklink "Bionicle". Thats not very informative.
We wanted to emphasis that these belong in the Pearlescent family and are names on the material used in these parts
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(2023-05-05, 15:27)Willy Tschager Wrote: We discussed this and agreed that we don't wanna use theme names for a color but (as we do for part names) be as much as we can generic. Since those are pearl colors and we already have pearl colors "Pearl" seamed a logical choice.

w.
Okay, that makes sense.

But all I (and others) have to go with is the guidelines here.  I (and others) can’t be aware of secret discussions and unpublished decisions.

(2023-05-05, 15:30)Willy Tschager Wrote: This has been discussed ad nauseam:

https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-24059-po...l#pid45467

It will stay as it is.

w.

Well, if you don’t want it to pop up in the forums every next thursday, maybe an official statement somewhere would help.  (Maybe in the page linked above?)
(No, “This was discussed before, get lost!” in a forum post isn’t an official statement that explains why an official guideline isn’t followed.)
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#39
(2023-05-05, 15:52)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: But all I (and others) have to go with is the guidelines here.  I (and others) can’t be aware of secret discussions and unpublished decisions.

Fair statement. I'll keep that in mind for the next update.

w.
LEGO ergo sum
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#40
Thank you.
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(2023-05-05, 15:52)Sylvain Sauvage Wrote: Well, if you don’t want it to pop up in the forums every next thursday, maybe an official statement somewhere would help.  (Maybe in the page linked above?)
(No, “This was discussed before, get lost!” in a forum post isn’t an official statement that explains why an official guideline isn’t followed.)

What Willy is trying to say is that all of this is discussed on the forums. This is the public record and is searchable. I'm not going to link to every single spec discussion.

You asked the question, it was answered. The tone didn't seem dismissive to me but I apologize if it seemed that way to you. Please remember that English is a second or third language for most of us (not me but almost everyone else) and that the medium of text removes non-verbal context clues.

Also, I'm not sure what "official guideline" we're not following as there are no requirements listed in the page you link to.
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(2023-05-05, 18:54)Orion Pobursky Wrote: What Willy is trying to say is that all of this is discussed on the forums. This is the public record and is searchable. I'm not going to link to every single spec discussion.
If I search for “silver” here, I find four somewhat-relevant threads: this one, Vincent’s thread that Willy linked to, a 7-year-old longish thread, and a 12-year-old thread.
Maybe my search-fu is dismal but:

First, I don’t call that “discussing ad nauseam.”

Second, in the 2016 thread, Willy says “we should pack 135 with 296+131+315.”  There’s a post by Philo then one by Sven and then Willy says “Nailed!”  Is that the decision?

Third, I was also talking about the “no theme in colour name” discussion/decision.  Searching for “theme (name(s))” or “bionicle” does not show any thread more recent than Willy’s post in this thread saying he will add the “Bionicle_*” colours.

(2023-05-05, 18:54)Orion Pobursky Wrote: You asked the question, it was answered. The tone didn't seem dismissive to me but I apologize if it seemed that way to you. Please remember that English is a second or third language for most of us (not me but almost everyone else) and that the medium of text removes non-verbal context clues.
I understand that but there’s a pattern with the answers to Max Murtazin in the linked thread, especially this one.

(2023-05-05, 18:54)Orion Pobursky Wrote: Also, I'm not sure what "official guideline" we're not following as there are no requirements listed in the page you link to.
Well, maybe that’s the problem.  It’s the only official text about colours and those are indeed only “considerations” but, as already mentioned here, there’s no indication on any process to add, change, or discuss colours.
I understand if you want to keep things informal / on the forum but then don’t complain if the same question pops up twice again in 2029-2030  Tongue

Finally, a few years ago, BrickLink planned never to separate some colours (“good enough,” “history,” “too late,” “impossible”…).  Now they have separated Clikit Lavender and the Bionicle metals (especially silver).  Things change.
Forgive me for thinking a decision from 2016 may have had a chance of being re-evaluated in face of new elements.
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