[Complete] Tiles 1 X 8 from latest Architecture sets

[Vincent Messenet]

Hi,

Could someone work on 1 x 8 tiles from latest Architecture sets?

"San Francisco":
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/cat...1#T=C&C=11

"Paris":
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/cat...1#T=C&C=11

[color=#333333][size=small][size=small][font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][color=#333333][size=small][size=small][size=small][font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]"[/size][/size][size=small][size=small]Trafalgar Square":[/size][/size][/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/color][/color]
[color=#333333][color=#333333][size=small][size=small][size=small][font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=small][size=small][size=small][size=small][font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/cat...only%22:0}[/size][/size][/size][/font][/size][/size][/size][/font][/size][/color][/color]

[color=#333333][size=small][size=small][font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]"[/size][size=small]Las Vegas"[/size][/font][/size][/color][color=#333333][size=small][size=small][size=small][size=small][font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]:[/size][/size][/font][/size][/size][/color]
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/cat...1#T=C&C=11

"Shanghai":
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/cat...0#T=C&C=11

"Statue of Liberty":
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?id=166139#T=C&C=11

"Great Wall Of China":
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/cat...6#T=C&C=11

and also its variant with Asian characters:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?id=166357#T=C&C=11

All are done now. Thanks to all authors!

Many thanks!

[Philippe Hurbain]

San Francisco was already done: https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...162p1a.dat
Made a few more:
Paris: https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...162p1d.dat
Las Vegas: https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...162p1f.dat
Trafalgar Square: https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...162p1e.dat
Enjoy

[Vincent Messenet]

Thanks, Philippe!
I just did an attempt using Txt2Dat. Here is my first part using it:
Shanghai: https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...162p1g.dat

[Vincent Messenet]

And now Statue of Liberty: https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...162p1h.dat

[N. W. Perry]

"Great Wall Of China":
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/cat...6#T=C&C=11

and also its variant with Asian characters:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/cat...7#T=C&C=11

The Chinese version remains to be done, is that so?

The glyphs are Simplified Chinese: 长城
The Mac system font is close but not a perfect match; I don't know if the open-source Zen Hei might be closer.
   

[Orion Pobursky]

The Chinese version remains to be done, is that so?

The glyphs are Simplified Chinese: 长城
The Mac system font is close but not a perfect match; I don't know if the open-source Zen Hei might be closer.

I tried to font match a while back but doing that with the font identifying websites was an exercise in futility.

[N. W. Perry]

I tried to font match a while back but doing that with the font identifying websites was an exercise in futility.

That's for sure. Easier would be to just modify the glyphs I have in Inkscape, but perhaps easier still is to use img4dat:
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...162p1l.dat

[N. W. Perry]

Hmm, the Chinese characters don't display correctly here—but they're fine when you go into the part details page:
   

I wonder if that will be a problem? I noted one other official part with a Chinese character in its title, so I took it to be acceptable. Or is the issue on the website side?

[Orion Pobursky]

Hmm, the Chinese characters don't display correctly here—but they're fine when you go into the part details page:


I wonder if that will be a problem? I noted one other official part with a Chinese character in its title, so I took it to be acceptable. Or is the issue on the website side?

Which list is this? I checked the Parts List and the list generated by search and those both display correctly.

[N. W. Perry]

Which list is this? I checked the Parts List and the list generated by search and those both display correctly.

Hmm, you're right—it looks okay for me on the search list, as well as the Activity list. It only comes up this way on the My Submits list. If that's the only place it's a problem, I'm not sure I'd worry. :-)

[Orion Pobursky]

I'm not sure I'd worry. :-)

I am, but that's my job as website admin.

[Yu Zhang]

The Chinese version remains to be done, is that so?

The glyphs are Simplified Chinese: 长城
The Mac system font is close but not a perfect match; I don't know if the open-source Zen Hei might be closer.

Glad to see Chinese Characters in LDraw
the font may be 'Adobe 繁黑體 Std B Bold'
good job.

[N. W. Perry]

Glad to see Chinese Characters in LDraw
the font may be 'Adobe 繁黑體 Std B Bold'
good job.

Gosh, I think you're right! This looks like a perfect match to me—note the two key points (circled) that I couldn't find in any other font:

  Screen Shot 2020-05-27 at 1.23.14 AM.png (Size: 44.51 KB / Downloads: 291)

An Adobe font does make sense, as they're likely using Adobe software to design these patterns. Of course I ended up just sampling the bitmap from a part photo, but this is good info in case we need to model more Chinese characters in the future! 

[N. W. Perry]

All are done now. Thanks to all authors!

Many thanks!

Hooray! Should we apply the new "Complete" prefix, or leave it off in anticipation of next year's sets?

[Orion Pobursky]

Hooray! Should we apply the new "Complete" prefix, or leave it off in anticipation of next year's sets?

Ill mark. We won't have to do one for the White House and, as long as there isn't a non-Roman variant, I'll probably make them as they appear.

[N. W. Perry]

Heads up for 21057 "Singapore"!

[Orion Pobursky]

Heads up for 21057 "Singapore"!

I got. Took me forever to find the correct font but now that I have it doing these are easy.

[Philippe Hurbain]

I got. Took me forever to find the correct font but now that I have it doing these are easy.

...and that font is? Helvetica regular? (according to your Architecture tiles)

[Orion Pobursky]

...and that font is? Helvetica regular? (according to your Architecture tiles)

Swiss 720 BT. The non-bold flavor. It's what I've used for all the tiles I've authored (which is a small handful). All the others were done by others.

[Willy Tschager]

Swiss 720 BT. The non-bold flavor. It's what I've used for all the tiles I've authored (which is a small handful). All the others were done by others.

Don't forget to add a comment with the font's name.

w.

[Philippe Hurbain]

Swiss 720 BT. The non-bold flavor. It's what I've used for all the tiles I've authored (which is a small handful). All the others were done by others.

Thanks!
My guess of Helvetica comes from these tiles whose comment says Helvetica...
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-par...id=4162p1j
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-par...id=4162p1k

[N. W. Perry]

Swiss 720 BT. The non-bold flavor. It's what I've used for all the tiles I've authored (which is a small handful). All the others were done by others.

The Singapore tile looks to me like a different font than previous ones, at least in the official product images. But I could be wrong.

[Orion Pobursky]

The Singapore tile looks to me like a different font than previous ones, at least in the official product images. But I could be wrong.

Hmm. Will have to wait until release then and compare.

[N. W. Perry]

Hmm. Will have to wait until release then and compare.

Just realized we don't have this one yet. I'll get to it shortly (if nobody else does).

[Orion Pobursky]

Just realized we don't have this one yet. I'll get to it shortly (if nobody else does).

I've had this set, unopened, for a bit. Since I have the correct font on my computer, I'll have a look

[Orion Pobursky]

I've had this set, unopened, for a bit. Since I have the correct font on my computer, I'll have a look

Fonts are the same:
   

[N. W. Perry]

I was just looking at this, too. The font appears to be Cera Pro. Also seems to be the same for the Taj Mahal (the lowercase a's are a dead giveaway).

[Orion Pobursky]

I was just looking at this, too. The font appears to be Cera Pro. Also seems to be the same for the Taj Mahal (the lowercase a's are a dead giveaway).

It should be Swiss 720 BT. The Bold variant (i.e. Swiss 720 BT Bold) is a very common font used by LEGO but for some reason they went with non-bold here.

The is one tile we don't have: Billund Airport. Not formally part of Architecture but packaged the same.

[N. W. Perry]

It should be Swiss 720 BT. The Bold variant (i.e. Swiss 720 BT Bold) is a very common font used by LEGO but for some reason they went with non-bold here.

Should be, but ain't. Biggest clues are the rounded dot on i/j, flattened bowl on the a, and the capital M that doesn't go all the way to the floor.

Closest match I could find, anyway.

   

EDIT: Now I look closer, it is indeed a different font than Sydney—look at the ends of the 'S'. So Sydney and most earlier tiles probably are the Swiss 720 font.

[N. W. Perry]

Singapore is done.

Don't forget to add a comment with the font's name.

w.

Added one. Font is a perfect—and I mean perfect—match. In Inkscape at 100x800 pixels, I dropped in the text at 48pt size, centered it, and literally had to do nothing else. No kerning, no re-shaping of any glyphs, nada. That's actually never happened before.
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[Orion Pobursky]

Singapore is done.


Added one. Font is a perfect—and I mean perfect—match. In Inkscape at 100x800 pixels, I dropped in the text at 48pt size, centered it, and literally had to do nothing else. No kerning, no re-shaping of any glyphs, nada. That's actually never happened before.
(click for animation)

Awesome. Now we need to figure out Billund Airport. I can provide a photo if needed.

[N. W. Perry]

Awesome. Now we need to figure out Billund Airport. I can provide a photo if needed.

Closest matches:
https://www.whatfontis.com/NFC_FF-Jigger...gular.font
https://www.whatfontis.com/NFC_PF-Isotext-Regular.font

The 'p' is wrong on the first one, the 't' is wrong on the second. Easy to clip off the 't' in that case.

Isotext is based on ISO 3098 standard, this may have been an embedded font in their AutoCad or other software.

On my end the question is mainly academic as I can't directly convert text to dat. I go via Inkscape to make a high-quality SVG so that I can downsample it to a low-quality bitmap for img4dat. But I'm thinking it might be easier at this point to skip that step and just digitize directly in LDPE. (Maybe just use img4dat to make regular circle arcs and the like…)

[Orion Pobursky]

Closest matches:
https://www.whatfontis.com/NFC_FF-Jigger...gular.font
https://www.whatfontis.com/NFC_PF-Isotext-Regular.font

The 'p' is wrong on the first one, the 't' is wrong on the second. Easy to clip off the 't' in that case.

Isotext is based on ISO 3098 standard, this may have been an embedded font in their AutoCad or other software.

On my end the question is mainly academic as I can't directly convert text to dat. I go via Inkscape to make a high-quality SVG so that I can downsample it to a low-quality bitmap for img4dat. But I'm thinking it might be easier at this point to skip that step and just digitize directly in LDPE. (Maybe just use img4dat to make regular circle arcs and the like…)

txt2dat doesn't work under WINE? That kind of surprises me.

[N. W. Perry]

txt2dat doesn't work under WINE? That kind of surprises me.

That, or I haven't yet learned how to install it. Actually there is a Mac package for it, but the app isn't built (and the instructions kind of start a few steps in). :-)

[N. W. Perry]

Just when we got caught up, heads up for 21058 - The Great Pyramid of Giza.

From the official photos, this appears to be the same font (Cera Pro) as 21056 and 21057. I'll whip it up at some point, unless someone expects to have a better opportunity to do so…

[Orion Pobursky]

Just when we got caught up, heads up for 21058 - The Great Pyramid of Giza.

From the official photos, this appears to be the same font (Cera Pro) as 21056 and 21057. I'll whip it up at some point, unless someone expects to have a better opportunity to do so…

You have the font, I don't. Go for it.

Also,
https://www.brothers-brick.com/2022/05/1...review-13/

[N. W. Perry]

You have the font, I don't. Go for it.

Also,
https://www.brothers-brick.com/2022/05/1...review-13/

Well that adds a wrinkle, doesn't it.

There are also so leafy parts I don't recognize, not sure if they're actually new though. We'll find out by August if any more new parts are needed, I guess!

[Orion Pobursky]

There are also so leafy parts I don't recognize, not sure if they're actually new though. We'll find out by August if any more new parts are needed, I guess!

The Brother's Brick review makes no mention of new moulds.

The plant life are these 3 parts:
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-par...rtid=37695
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-par...rtid=24866
http://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-part...rtid=32607

[N. W. Perry]

The Brother's Brick review makes no mention of new moulds.

The plant life are these 3 parts:
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-par...rtid=37695
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-par...rtid=24866
http://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-part...rtid=32607

OK, cool. I just noticed that this releases June 1 in some of the more advanced nations, so there are already plenty of advance copies out there!

I'll plan to do the tiles when I get around to building the model. (I may not be the first to build it, but I'll do so either way.) I'll see whether I can get any usable output from txt2dat via LDPE this time…

[Magnus Forsberg]

Is there any font that can write hieroglyphs?

[Orion Pobursky]

Is there any font that can write hieroglyphs?

There are but tracking down the exact one, assuming they even used one, is going to be lots for work for little reward.

[N. W. Perry]

There are but tracking down the exact one, assuming they even used one, is going to be lots for work for little reward.

Y'know, I wasn't sure I'd find the font for the Chinese characters either, and then…

[Orion Pobursky]

Y'know, I wasn't sure I'd find the font for the Chinese characters either, and then…

Well your sleuthiness is better than mine since I look for quite a while for that font. I suspect, however, that they may not have used a font for this tile.

[N. W. Perry]

Well your sleuthiness is better than mine since I look for quite a while for that font. I suspect, however, that they may not have used a font for this tile.

Yeah, from what I can tell their glyphs are derived from the original Gardiner text—though possibly indirectly through some PNG or Unicode repository. But Wikipedia has already done the work of extracting the symbols, and that's probably as simple a starting point as I'll find.

[Travis Cobbs]

Is there any font that can write hieroglyphs?

Good luck finding the font, but this might be the characters:

𓐍𓅱𓆑𓅱 𓅞𓇿𓏏𓉴

Note: I omitted special Unicode control characters to start and end the cartouche, and to put the half-circle under the pill. I couldn't find a program that respected those characters, and Google Chrome doesn't.

[N. W. Perry]

Good luck finding the font, but this might be the characters:

𓐍𓅱𓆑𓅱 𓅞𓇿𓏏𓉴

Note: I omitted special Unicode control characters to start and end the cartouche, and to put the half-circle under the pill. I couldn't find a program that respected those characters, and Google Chrome doesn't.

I'm finally starting work on these. Good news is, the same hieroglyphs are printed in the instruction manual, so I can just take those vectors straight out of the PDF.

[N. W. Perry]

Since img4dat tends to require per-vertex revision anyway, at least with highly geometric patterns, I decided to skip it and go straight into LDPE for digitizing the hieroglyphs.

I've built some constructors using type 2 lines and curved prims where possible; the rest will be hand-triangulated (the birds and horned viper).

   
   

[N. W. Perry]

Pattern and background are done. It's…very detailed.

  glyphsBG.dat (Size: 54.4 KB / Downloads: 4)

[N. W. Perry]

Pattern and background are done. It's…very detailed.

Now (finally) on PT:
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...162p1r.dat

[N. W. Perry]

Just when we got caught up, heads up for 21058 - The Great Pyramid of Giza.

From the official photos, this appears to be the same font (Cera Pro) as 21056 and 21057. I'll whip it up at some point, unless someone expects to have a better opportunity to do so…

Finally "whipped up" and on PT:
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...162p1q.dat