Numbering of torso prints


Numbering of torso prints
#1
Any thoughts about numbering torso prints which have a variation in clear or printed backsides? Like the torso's for the Star Wars 20th anniversary minifigs, they are based on existing prints, but with a printed back. Can we re-use the numbering, or choose a different number instead?
For example, 973psy, can it be 973psyb?
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#2
No. They're distinct prints. They should have a conforming number. The pXXX are for the CMF series only.
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(2024-12-14, 17:36)Orion Pobursky Wrote: No. They're distinct prints. They should have a conforming number. The pXXX are for the CMF series only.

Hello,

How could this be realized if the torso 973psy now becomes an upper body 76382psy, which exists in different versions, e.g. different arms?
Could there be an extension of the numbering here? For example, psy1 and psy2.
How could a collision with the upper bodies of the CMF series be avoided?
I don't think completely different numbering makes sense, as the reference to the printing would be lost.
In another post, I suggested a solution with the extension cxx, which turned out to be impractical.

Regards

Manfred
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I would still prefer a -n suffix when there are several torso shortcut, this keeps the link with naked torso number and remains 'future prof'
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(2024-12-16, 10:39)Manfred Schaefer Wrote: Could there be an extension of the numbering here? For example, psy1 and psy2.
How could a collision with the upper bodies of the CMF series be avoided?

We already have a situation where the numbering collide.

973pcXY and 973pdXY are assigned to the CMF series. X and Y stands for 0-9, a-z.
Any pattern beginning with 973pc_ or 973pd_ will be sorted next to the collectables.

Check out the Muppet torso assys.
973pdg1 - 973pdgc are made. Some of the complete torsos are also made.
But first when sorted is the standard part 973pdg.  Not part of the Muppet series.
 
There are many more examples, not so easy to detect, since not many of the CMF patterns are made.

Maybe there is an opening here?
A fourth token is possible, but not on 973pCxy and 973pDxy. I think psy1 and psy2 are possible.

What will happen when(if) LEGO continues the CMF series beyond series 35?
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#6
I'm done with the convoluted rules of meaningful pattern codes and I'm especially done with adding even more complexity.

With the advent to description and keyword aware editors, the filename is fairly irrelevant to users.
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(2024-12-16, 17:14)Orion Pobursky Wrote: I'm done with the convoluted rules of meaningful pattern codes and I'm especially done with adding even more complexity.

I started to write this as an explanation to why we can't use this numbering, and then realized it is possible, if we have an exception.
But you are right, a rule that forces us to have an exception in not a good rule.
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