Town and Trains 1980

[Victor Di Rienzo]

im opening a new thread with town series 1980.



Set: 1591-1 - Danone Truck
OMR Compliant: Yes
Missing: Stickers
CAD: LDcad 1.6b As it should be

[Victor Di Rienzo]

Set: 6679-2 - Exxon Tow Truck
OMR Compliant: Yes
Missing: Stickers
CAD: LDcad 1.6b As it should be

[Victor Di Rienzo]

Set: 6690-1 - Snorkel Pumper
OMR Compliant: Yes
Missing: Stickers - Fireman torso not correct.
CAD: LDcad 1.6b

[Victor Di Rienzo]

i was able to make the danone pattern and i have uploaded to par tracker.

laso have added the head lights made by Tore Eriksson [Tore_Eriksson] 3010p0d.dat

my danone brick its not crtified yet so i will not be uploading the model by the moment.

[Steffen]

you can combine your model + any uncertified files into an MPD file using MPDCreator if you want.
that will allow you to upload the model here even before certification.

[Victor Di Rienzo]

you can combine your model + any uncertified files into an MPD file using MPDCreator if you want.
that will allow you to upload the model here even before certification.

Yes i know, im waiting some reviews to see if it has big issues then i can upload it.

Thabk you very much

[Victor Di Rienzo]

here i have imported the files, if you want you have them to play with.

[Takeshi Takahashi]

6364 Paramedic unit : Updated, added missing stickers
(Currently not OMR conform; unofficial stickers not inlined)


  6364 - Paramedic Unit.mpd (Size: 11.09 KB / Downloads: 8)
   

[Takeshi Takahashi]

This is the first "flagship set" in Town/City theme and re-released later as set 10041 (some discontinued parts replaced)
I've built it several years ago without stickers, but recently the stickers have been completed!!

  6390 - Main Street.mpd (Size: 35.3 KB / Downloads: 15)
   

Currently not OMR conform (Unofficial stickers not inlined)
Missing items: flexible rope

[Takeshi Takahashi]

6627 Convertible : Updated, corrected tyre colour

  6627 - Convertible.mpd (Size: 3.16 KB / Downloads: 6)
   

OMR conform
Missing items: none

[Takeshi Takahashi]

Added missing stickers


  6690 - Snorkel Pumper.mpd (Size: 46.2 KB / Downloads: 10)
   

OMR conform (with inlined unofficial sticker)
Missing items: none

EDIT 22-01-20 Unofficial sticker has been inlined, as it will be certified in near future
EDIT 22-01-24 Reconstructed submodels by movement base, added missing (official) stickers and part

[Takeshi Takahashi]

  7710 - Push-Along Passenger Steam Train.mpd (Size: 16.76 KB / Downloads: 15)
   

Currently not OMR conform (Unofficial stickers not inlined)
Missing items: none

[Takeshi Takahashi]

  7720 - Diesel Freight Train Set.mpd (Size: 19.4 KB / Downloads: 14)
   

Currently not OMR conform (Unofficial parts not inlined)
Missing items: flexible electric cable

[Willy Tschager]

You're in full swing, eh?  

w.

[Takeshi Takahashi]

You're in full swing, eh?  

w.

These models are built several years ago (before I join in the LDraw forum community) and brushed up for the OMR recently.
I have some 4.5/12V gray era train sets in my childhood.

[Takeshi Takahashi]

Updated: added missing stickers and corrected several errors (misplaced or forgotten parts, wrong stickers)


  7730 - Electric Goods Train.mpd (Size: 22.87 KB / Downloads: 10)
   

Currently not OMR conform (Unofficial parts not inlined)
Missing items: none

[Takeshi Takahashi]

Updated: added missing stickers and corrected several errors (misplaced or forgotten parts)


  7810 - Push-Along Steam Engine.mpd (Size: 5.95 KB / Downloads: 8)
   

Currently not OMR conform (Unofficial parts not inlined)
Missing items: none

[Takeshi Takahashi]

  7814 - Crane Wagon.mpd (Size: 6.87 KB / Downloads: 13)
   

OMR conform
Missing items: flexible ropes

[Takeshi Takahashi]

Added missing stickers and corrected misplaced parts


  6679-2 - Exxon Tow Truck.mpd (Size: 5.33 KB / Downloads: 10)
   

Currently not OMR conform (unofficial stickers not inlined)
Missing items: none

[Takeshi Takahashi]

Updated: added missing stickers


  7816 - Shell Tanker Wagon.mpd (Size: 11.04 KB / Downloads: 9)
   

Currently not OMR conform (Unofficial parts not inlined)
Missing items: none

[Takeshi Takahashi]

  7818 - Passenger Coach.mpd (Size: 6.91 KB / Downloads: 12)
   

OMR conform
Missing items: none

[Takeshi Takahashi]

  7820 - Mail Van.mpd (Size: 10.95 KB / Downloads: 13)
   

OMR conform
Missing items: none

[Takeshi Takahashi]

Updated: added missing stickers and corrected misplaced parts


  7822 - Railway Station.mpd (Size: 24.36 KB / Downloads: 11)
   

Currently not OMR conform (Unofficial parts not inlined)
Missing items: none

[Takeshi Takahashi]

Updated with official patterned parts


  1591 - Danone Truck.mpd (Size: 2.51 KB / Downloads: 7)
   

OMR conform
Missing items: none

[Takeshi Takahashi]

  1592 - Town Square Castle Scene.mpd (Size: 28.86 KB / Downloads: 13)
   

Currently not OMR conform (Unofficial parts not inlined)
Missing items: none

[Takeshi Takahashi]

  1651-2 - Maersk Line Container Lorry.mpd (Size: 18.06 KB / Downloads: 9)
   

Currently not OMR compliant (Unofficial stickers not inlined)
Missing items: none

[Johann Eisner]

Added missing stickers




Currently not OMR conform (unofficial stickers not inlined)
Missing items: none

Will you make the stickers official?

Or will you inline the stickers at some point?

[Takeshi Takahashi]

Will you make the stickers official?

Or will you inline the stickers at some point?

Yes, the unofficial sticker in this mpd, 192385f has all but admin certification.
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...92385f.dat
I think it is good enough to be inlined.

[Johann Eisner]

Yes, the unofficial sticker in this mpd, 192385f has all but admin certification.
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...92385f.dat
I think it is good enough to be inlined.

Thanks.
Will you do it here also... 6679-2 - Exxon Tow Truck ?

[Takeshi Takahashi]

Thanks.
Will you do it here also... 6679-2 - Exxon Tow Truck ?

I've checked the PT status for stickers in 6679-2
s15.dat (for Tow truck doors): 1 certify vote (but I think it is unlikely to need major revision, as it's a combination of certified subfiles)
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...ts/s15.dat
s16.dat (for Car front hood): All but admin certification
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?s=s16
I'll inline them when s15 reaches final stage.

[Johann Eisner]

I've checked the PT status for stickers in 6679-2
s15.dat (for Tow truck doors): 1 certify vote (but I think it is unlikely to need major revision, as it's a combination of certified subfiles)
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...ts/s15.dat
s16.dat (for Car front hood): All but admin certification
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?s=s16
I'll inline them when s15 reaches final stage.

I made a note on my pending list.
Do you also make the missing stickers for 6690? (door)

[Takeshi Takahashi]

I made a note on my pending list.
Do you also make the missing stickers for 6690? (door)

Oops, I've overlooked them.
The fire logo stickers on the door and bucket (and a forgotten torch 3959 for water nozzle) are added.

[legolex76]

I have to admit, even these small "back of the box" models are a challenge to figure out sometimes. Very enjoyable though. The rest of the 6690 alternative models will follow.

6690 - Snorkel Pumper - B


  6690 - Snorkel Pumper - B.ldr (Size: 45.39 KB / Downloads: 7)
   

OMR conform
Missing items: none

[legolex76]

Unfortunately, life happened, and I entered a short "dark ages" over the past months. 
Here are the remainder of the 6690 "back of the box" models.

6690 - Snorkel Pumper - C

  6690 - Snorkel Pumper - C.ldr (Size: 44.88 KB / Downloads: 3)
   

6690 - Snorkel Pumper - D

  6690 - Snorkel Pumper - D.ldr (Size: 5.91 KB / Downloads: 3)
   

6690 - Snorkel Pumper - E

  6690 - Snorkel Pumper - E.ldr (Size: 6.72 KB / Downloads: 3)
   

All OMR conform
Missing items: none

[legolex76]

I wasn't sure whether to start a new thread for the trains so I have included it here for now and a moderator is welcome to move it if that would be a better idea. 
If it can stay in this thread it would be great if it could be renamed to "Town, Trains and Boats 1980" just like Takeshi did for 1993. That way we can reduce the number of threads. What do you guys think? 

7730 - Electric Goods Train - A
Corrected OMR errors, misplaced parts and added missing parts (edit 15.1.23, just realized Takeshi already posted a corrected version in this thread)

  7730 - Electric Goods Train - A.ldr (Size: 76.57 KB / Downloads: 4)
   

7730 - Electric Goods Train - B

  7730 - Electric Goods Train - B.ldr (Size: 38.83 KB / Downloads: 1)
   

7730 - Electric Goods Train - C

  7730 - Electric Goods Train - C.ldr (Size: 12.37 KB / Downloads: 2)
   
An interesting fact about the C model, on the box art the doors are mounted in reverse, in the instructions they are mounted the normal way. I chose to keep it as shown as the box art as it is quite unusual. :-)

All OMR Conform
No missing parts, non-official parts embedded

"Back of the Box" models will follow shortly!

[Takeshi Takahashi]

I wasn't sure whether to start a new thread for the trains so I have included it here for now and a moderator is welcome to move it if that would be a better idea. 
If it can stay in this thread it would be great if it could be renamed to "Town, Trains and Boats 1980" just like Takeshi did for 1993. That way we can reduce the number of threads. What do you guys think?

I've changed the thread name to "Town and Trains 1980".
Other posts remaining in the original thread will be moved a little later (should be with a careful work, as I've made an incident before and asked Orion revert it).

[legolex76]

"Back of the Box" models will follow shortly!

and here is the main one...

7730 - Electric Goods Train - D

  7730 - Electric Goods Train - D.ldr (Size: 76.38 KB / Downloads: 4)
   
OMR Compliant
No errors or missing items, unofficial files embedded. 

Note that set 7730 did not have this much straight track, but this is how the box art shows it. 
I also added a bit of additional information concerning the C Model in the previous post, and re-uploaded the LDR for the B model as somehow there was a naming error in it. 

One more box model to follow...

[legolex76]

I've changed the thread name to "Town and Trains 1980".

Thanks!

[legolex76]

"Back of the Box" models will follow shortly!

The last "back of the box" for set 7730. On the box, there is another wagon depicted to the left of this one, but unfortunately there is not enough shown to be able to replicate it. Once again, more straight track in this model than in the actual set, but this how it was shown on the box.

  7730 - Electric Goods Train - E.ldr (Size: 8.86 KB / Downloads: 2)
   
OMR Conform
No missing parts

[legolex76]

7730 - Electric Goods Train - A
Corrected OMR errors, misplaced parts and added missing parts...

I just realized that Takeshi already uploaded an updated version of this model into this thread. Sorry about that. I hadn't realized and grabbed the one from OMR database, assuming it would be the most up-to-date version.
Perhaps it would be best to upload any updates and new models to the OMR database before creating too many more sets?

Also, would it make sense to have a post with an index at the beginning of each thread, or somewhere else in the official models forum in which one can see what is finished, and what still needs to be completed? Perhaps one could export this list/table from the OMR database as this has an entry for missing parts, stickers etc..?

[N. W. Perry]

I just realized that Takeshi already uploaded an updated version of this model into this thread. Sorry about that. I hadn't realized and grabbed the one from OMR database, assuming it would be the most up-to-date version.
Perhaps it would be best to upload any updates and new models to the OMR database before creating too many more sets?

I think there is a known need for the OMR to be given some love, but it is currently admin-heavy and there are other priorities. As it is, there is no way for users to submit new files and updates to existing ones; it all has to be done manually. (I also believe, though I could be mistaken, that there is a standing vacancy for anyone wishing to take over administration of the OMR…)

But it never hurts to discuss improvements. I've wondered before whether it's a good idea to post our own versions of sets that already appear in the OMR (noting that not every model in this forum needs to even be an OMR candidate). If so, should those be limited to improvements on existing sets, or can different authors post their own work so that users can compare methods, for example? (I'm not sure how much anyone actually studies this kind of thing…)

Also, would it make sense to have a post with an index at the beginning of each thread, or somewhere else in the official models forum in which one can see what is finished, and what still needs to be completed? Perhaps one could export this list/table from the OMR database as this has an entry for missing parts, stickers etc..?

At the same time, should there be any guideline as to the required completeness of a model that's submitted? On the one hand, I know that Takeshi and others have done a huge amount of work updating models with new patterns and stickers that have needed to be authored before some models can be complete. On the other hand, flexible parts continue to be a major holdup to completeness for many sets, and those do already exist. (They're just tricky and annoying to create, and require having the proper tools—but then, so does part authoring.) ;-)

[Orion Pobursky]

I think there is a known need for the OMR to be given some love, but it is currently admin-heavy and there are other priorities. As it is, there is no way for users to submit new files and updates to existing ones; it all has to be done manually. (I also believe, though I could be mistaken, that there is a standing vacancy for anyone wishing to take over administration of the OMR…)

The OMR will move to the new software underlying the new PT after the PT is finished. In fact, the new PT started life as the OMR replacement when Chris retired and changed my priority. Eventually I'd like the OMR forums to be automated posts of new models. This will probably be, best guess, June-ish. 

Johann Eisner is currently the OMR admin

[Javier Orquera]

Hello: about the set 7730, according to the instructions there is two models and the "back of the box" is only one model. Is correct the spliting into different "sets"?

[legolex76]

Hello: about the set 7730, according to the instructions there is two models and the "back of the box" is only one model. Is correct the spliting into different "sets"?

Instruction model 1 
Instruction model 2
Instruction model 3

"Back of the box" is a term for any alternative model shown on the box which is not included in the instructions. Typically they were on the "back of the box" but not always.

"Back of the box" model 1 has the same locomotive as instruction model 1 but different wagons
   

"Back of the box" model 2 which is shown on the front and inside the box lid next to different locomotives and is not included in the instructions.

  bob 2.jpg (Size: 32.49 KB / Downloads: 78)

[legolex76]

7740 - Inter-City Passenger Train - A
I downloaded the current file of the A model from the OMR database, which seems to be the most current one. OMR is updated (there were various errors in MPD center), moved the motor from the front of the locomotive to the back, and fixed some color issues which appeared in Studio.

  7740 - Inter-City Passenger Train.ldr (Size: 35.53 KB / Downloads: 7)
   
OMR Conform
No missing parts (except for wires...)

Despite once owning that train for many years, I never built the second model, until now...
7740 - Inter-City Passenger Train - B

  7740 - Inter-City Passenger Train - B.ldr (Size: 24.42 KB / Downloads: 3)
   
OMR Conform
No missing parts (except for wires...)

[Rene Rechthaler]

7740 - Inter-City Passenger Train - A
I downloaded the current file of the A model from the OMR database, which seems to be the most current one. OMR is updated (there were various errors in MPD center), moved the motor from the front of the locomotive to the back, and fixed some color issues which appeared in Studio.


OMR Conform
No missing parts (except for wires...)

Despite once owning that train for many years, I never built the second model, until now...
7740 - Inter-City Passenger Train - B


OMR Conform
No missing parts (except for wires...)

Do we need cables for OMR? I have some sets with 3mm flex tubes as cable proxys (from Studio) but they bloat the model...

[Javier Orquera]

Instruction model 1 
Instruction model 2
Instruction model 3

"Back of the box" is a term for any alternative model shown on the box which is not included in the instructions. Typically they were on the "back of the box" but not always.

"Back of the box" model 1 has the same locomotive as instruction model 1 but different wagons


"Back of the box" model 2 which is shown on the front and inside the box lid next to different locomotives and is not included in the instructions.

I checked all of it before, but still confused on the 3rd model before posting my coment. So, you are right; my apologize.

[legolex76]

I checked all of it before, but still confused on the 3rd model before posting my coment. So, you are right; my apologize.

No worries!

[legolex76]

Do we need cables for OMR? I have some sets with 3mm flex tubes as cable proxys (from Studio) but they bloat the model...

Good question. 
As flexible parts are currently so difficult to make, I personally don't think wires which are mostly hidden, would justify the time one would have to invest to do it properly. For this train that could involve making a wire to the correct length, connecting either end and then wrapping the excess length up inside the train as one did in the real thing. 
I noticed that other models don't seem to have wires, but did want to mention it, as it is essentially a missing part.

As N. W. Perry mentioned in his post here yesterday, the requirements for completeness still need to be properly defined, but this weekend I will try to create some flexible parts and also have a look at the LD Pattern Creator to try to improve my contributions.

[legolex76]

As priorities had to change for the last few weekends, I unfortunately didn't have much time to spend on trying out the creation of flexible parts and stickers. Nevertheless, I have to admit, having briefly tried several of the many tools that are out there, it was a rather frustrating experience. I will revisit the topic at a later date, and now have an even greater appreciation for the parts designers and program creators that have made this hobby possible!

For now, a new addition to the 1980s collection. As with set 7740 which I posted earlier, I owned this one for many years and never made the B Model, until now.

7760 - Diesel Shunter Locomotive - A

  7760 - Diesel Shunter Locomotive.ldr (Size: 14.57 KB / Downloads: 2)
   
OMR Conform, corrected some MPD errors, and color errors for the blue parts that appeared in Studio. Adjusted appearance to match box art.
No missing parts (except for wires...)

7760 - Diesel Shunter Locomotive - B

  7760 - Diesel Shunter Locomotive B.ldr (Size: 11.45 KB / Downloads: 0)
   
OMR Conform
No missing parts (except for wires...)

An interesting side note for the B-Model is that on the box art, the sticker which is on the door in the instructions, was placed on the front section of the locomotive instead.


  B-Model.png (Size: 369.39 KB / Downloads: 40)