New meta in LDConfig for default category icon in editors

[Willy Tschager]

Guys,

the following is addressed mainly to LDCad where the first part in a CATEGORY is used as mascot for it but all other editors. This leads to very strange results where "Slope" is represented by a Duplo Slope 2x2x1,5 or "PLate" by a Duplo Plate 1x2 with overhang. In LDCad this is editable through the pbg files in the AppData folder - not very user friendly.

I suggest adding a new meta to the LDConfig.ldr defining the mascot for the single LDraw categories:

0 !CATEGORY Plate MASCOT 1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 part.dat DESCRIPTION Plates

Thoughts?

w.

[Orion Pobursky]

I'd do:

Code:

!MASCOT CATEGORY <Category> DESCRIPTION <description> PART <Matrix> <Part>

Example:
!MASCOT CATEGORY Plate DESCRIPTION Plates PART 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 part.dat

Reason:
Some Categories are 2 words. This makes parsing much easier.

[Roland Melkert]

I'd do:

Code:

!MASCOT CATEGORY <Category> DESCRIPTION <description> PART <Matrix> <Part>

Example:
!MASCOT CATEGORY Plate DESCRIPTION Plates PART 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 part.dat

Reason:
Some Categories are 2 words. This makes parsing much easier.

I would suggest using quotes for easier parsing so:
!MASCOT CATEGORY "Plate" DESCRIPTION "Plates" PART 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 "part.dat"

Also the matrix part could be optional.

[Willy Tschager]

Here is my list for the LDConfig file. Feel free to comment. Rotation is untouched as there is currently no editor supporting the AVATAR meta:

0 // Avatar definitions

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Animal" DESCRIPTION "Animal" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "13786.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Antenna" DESCRIPTION "Antenna" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3144.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Arch" DESCRIPTION "Arch" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "4490.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Arm" DESCRIPTION "Arm" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "4220a.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Bar" DESCRIPTION "Bar" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "87994.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Baseplate" DESCRIPTION "Baseplate" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3947.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Belville" DESCRIPTION "Belville" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "72514.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Boat" DESCRIPTION "Boat" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "28925.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Bracket" DESCRIPTION "Bracket" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "44728.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Brick" DESCRIPTION "Brick" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3002.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Car" DESCRIPTION "Car" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3829c01.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Clikits" DESCRIPTION "Clikits" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "46296.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Cockpit" DESCRIPTION "Cockpit" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "30200.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Cone" DESCRIPTION "Cone" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3942a.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Constraction" DESCRIPTION "Constraction" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "32475.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Constraction Accessory" DESCRIPTION "Constraction Accessory" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "85582.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Container" DESCRIPTION "Container" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "61780.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Conveyor" DESCRIPTION "Conveyor" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "92713c01.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Crane" DESCRIPTION "Crane" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "30395.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Cylinder" DESCRIPTION "Cylinder" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "30367b.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Dish" DESCRIPTION "Dish" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3960.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Door" DESCRIPTION "Door" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3861a.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Duplo" DESCRIPTION "Duplo" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "40666.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Electric" DESCRIPTION "Electric" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "73666.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Exhaust" DESCRIPTION "Exhaust" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "71137.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Fence" DESCRIPTION "Fence" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "33303.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Figure" DESCRIPTION "Figure" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "92198c01.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Figure Accessory" DESCRIPTION "Figure Accessory" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "11245.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Flag" DESCRIPTION "Flag" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3596.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Forklift" DESCRIPTION "Forklift" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3430c02-f1.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Freestyle" DESCRIPTION "Freestyle" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3004.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Garage" DESCRIPTION "Garage" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "822bc02.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Glass" DESCRIPTION "Glass" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "4036.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Grab" DESCRIPTION "Grab" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3004.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Helper" DESCRIPTION "Helper" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "helper2druler100ldu.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Hinge" DESCRIPTION "Hinge" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3937c01.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Homemaker" DESCRIPTION "Homemaker" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "837.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Hose" DESCRIPTION "Hose" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "73590a.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Ladder" DESCRIPTION "Ladder" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "11299.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Lever" DESCRIPTION "Lever" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3004.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Magnet" DESCRIPTION "Magnet" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "735.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Minifig" DESCRIPTION "Minifig" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "973p90.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Minifig Accessory" DESCRIPTION "Minifig Accessory" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3962a.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Minifig Footwear" DESCRIPTION "Minifig Footwear" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "10190.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Minifig Headwear" DESCRIPTION "Minifig Headwear" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "30138p01.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Minifig Hipwear" DESCRIPTION "Minifig Hipwear" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "24782.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Minifig Neckwear" DESCRIPTION "Minifig Neckwear" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "2587.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Monorail" DESCRIPTION "Monorail" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "2684c01.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Panel" DESCRIPTION "Panel" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "6231.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Plane" DESCRIPTION "Plane" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "87613.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Plant" DESCRIPTION "Plant" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "6255.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Plate" DESCRIPTION "Plate" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3021.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Platform" DESCRIPTION "Platform" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "2642.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Propeller" DESCRIPTION "Propeller" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "15211.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Rack" DESCRIPTION "Rack" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "2426c02.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Roadsign" DESCRIPTION "Roadsign" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3350.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Rock" DESCRIPTION "Rock" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "42284.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Scala" DESCRIPTION "Scala" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "33086.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Screw" DESCRIPTION "Screw" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3004.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Sheet Cardboard" DESCRIPTION "Sheet Cardboard" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "u572p02.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Sheet Fabric" DESCRIPTION "Sheet Fabric" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "u9494p01c01.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Sheet Plastic" DESCRIPTION "Sheet Plastic" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "u66p03.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Slope" DESCRIPTION "Slope" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3298.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Sphere" DESCRIPTION "Sphere" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "98107.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Staircase" DESCRIPTION "Staircase" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "4784.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Sticker" DESCRIPTION "Sticker" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "192425a.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "String" DESCRIPTION "String" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "76384.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Support" DESCRIPTION "Support" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "2580.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Tail" DESCRIPTION "Tail" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "4867.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Tap" DESCRIPTION "Tap" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "6936.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Technic" DESCRIPTION "Technic" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "4019.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Tile" DESCRIPTION "Tile" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3068b.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Tipper" DESCRIPTION "Tipper" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "15455.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Tractor" DESCRIPTION "Tractor" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "828.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Trailer" DESCRIPTION "Trailer" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "30184.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Train" DESCRIPTION "Train" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "53400.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Turntable" DESCRIPTION "Turntable" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3403c01.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Tyre" DESCRIPTION "Tyre" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3641.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Vehicle" DESCRIPTION "Vehicle" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "50859bc01.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Wedge" DESCRIPTION "Wedge" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "48933.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Wheel" DESCRIPTION "Wheel" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "2470.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Winch" DESCRIPTION "Winch" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "73037.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Window" DESCRIPTION "Window" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3853.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Windscreen" DESCRIPTION "Windscreen" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3823.dat"
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Wing" DESCRIPTION "Wing" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "3936.dat"

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Znap" DESCRIPTION "Znap" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "32210.dat"

[Magnus Forsberg]

Here is my list for the LDConfig file. Feel free to comment. Rotation is untouched as there is currently no editor supporting the AVATAR meta:

I know many partnumbers, but could you make a list with images of these parts?

[Willy Tschager]

Here we go:

   
   
   

[Roland Melkert]

Here is my list for the LDConfig file. Feel free to comment. Rotation is untouched as there is currently no editor supporting the AVATAR meta:

I've been working on implementing the meta for LDCad 1.7 Beta 2.

And I'm wondering about some additional points, spec wise:

- Description seems to be fairly useless (i this list), I would suggest making it optional (defaults to category) in the spec to prevent typo's.
- Same for orientation.

Also I wrote the parser to be order independent, so.

0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Tail" DESCRIPTION "Tail" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "4867.dat"
and
0 !AVATAR CATEGORY "Tail" PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "4867.dat" DESCRIPTION "Tail"
and
0 !AVATAR PART 1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1 "4867.dat" DESCRIPTION "Tail" CATEGORY "Tail"

will all load. Maybe we should make it clear in the spec if the order is supposed to be static.

It will only cause problems if we ever add a new parameter as the old parser will not know how to 'skip' an unknown one.

LDCad will now just stop parsing and use the line 'read only' with the information read so far.

Finally has LDraw.org ever defined the rules of a quoted string?

I'm currently using an extremely simple one with just an escape for " (\") and \ (\\)


Anyhow the above list by Willy parses ok in beta 2, next up actually using the information in the bins etc

[Roland Melkert]

It is actually using it now:

   

The part MUST be in the pbg items list though, or it will ignore it and default to the first one in the list.

Still thinking about how to handle the descriptions and orientations though.


@Willy the brick category has a different part in your overview as compared with the preceding text (3002 and 3004), so one of them is wrong

[Willy Tschager]

@Willy the brick category has a different part in your overview as compared with the preceding text (3002 and 3004), so one of them is wrong

Will check - but man, those look freakin' awesome!

w.