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RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Willy Tschager - 2020-07-02
Stud orientation and mirrored studs are not addressed.
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RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Gerald Lasser - 2020-07-02
IMHO concerning the part naming when it comes to dimensions, e.g. if it is 2 plates high, it will be .667, this was change in the past from 2/3 to this, I think it should be added and also how many decimals shall there be in the description (3).
Also:
anything Bricklike: Studs x Studs x Bricks
anything Technic looking: Studs x Studs x Studs
Where is the orientation of a part taken care of?
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Chris Dee - 2020-07-02
(2020-07-02, 11:34)Willy Tschager Wrote: A constant hassle for newbies is the usage of Metallic vs. Chrome in patterns. May be https://www.ldraw.org/article/512.html#ldconfig is the right place to address that in patterns only Metallic is used to represent shiny colors.
w.
Not just newbies
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Orion Pobursky - 2020-07-02
(2020-07-02, 11:27)Willy Tschager Wrote: https://www.ldraw.org/article/512.html#colours
Code:where a line is being used for fine detail within a pattern and that pattern is re-used within many parts (and hence sub-parted) in different colours (for example, sub-part s/973p11a.dat)
We do no longer use emphasis lines. Should be deleted.
w.
This has already been deleted in the draft.
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Orion Pobursky - 2020-07-02
(2020-07-02, 11:19)Willy Tschager Wrote: https://www.ldraw.org/article/512.html
Code:Extension
All files in the LDraw Parts Library are required to carry the .DAT extension.
.DAT has to be substituted by .dat. Otherwise the whole discussion will start over again at the next revision.
w.
The draft has been changed. You're still looking at the original.
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Orion Pobursky - 2020-07-02
(2020-07-02, 11:40)Willy Tschager Wrote: I still believe that the list what triggers a HOLD should be added and this:
https://www.ldraw.org/library/tracker/ref/l3pmsg/
should be deleted or updated.
w.
This will be it's own document. I'd like it to be separate from the spec to have be more easily editing.
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Orion Pobursky - 2020-07-02
(2020-07-02, 11:08)Willy Tschager Wrote: is how to deal with blanks in combinations with decimals as in sticker dimensions.
Sticker 3.1 x 3.1 Round
Not sure what you mean. Same rules apply, correct?
(2020-07-02, 11:08)Willy Tschager Wrote: Furthermore this information should be mirrored to https://www.ldraw.org/article/339.html
This article will be cancelled and archived once the draft is ratified.
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Willy Tschager - 2020-07-02
(2020-07-02, 15:42)Orion Pobursky Wrote: Not sure what you mean. Same rules apply, correct?
Correct. Just showing that nothing change with a decimal.
(2020-07-02, 15:42)Orion Pobursky Wrote: This article will be cancelled and archived once the draft is ratified.
Then the "blank" rule should be mirrored to https://www.ldraw.org/article/512draft.html#sticker_desc
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Willy Tschager - 2020-07-02
(2020-07-02, 14:12)Orion Pobursky Wrote: The draft has been changed. You're still looking at the original.
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Orion Pobursky - 2020-07-02
(2020-07-02, 13:19)Gerald Lasser Wrote: IMHO concerning the part naming when it comes to dimensions, e.g. if it is 2 plates high, it will be .667, this was change in the past from 2/3 to this, I think it should be added and also how many decimals shall there be in the description (3).
An example has been added to the header spec.
(2020-07-02, 13:19)Gerald Lasser Wrote: Also:
anything Bricklike: Studs x Studs x Bricks
anything Technic looking: Studs x Studs x Studs
Hmm. Header spec or Official Library spec?
(2020-07-02, 13:19)Gerald Lasser Wrote: Where is the orientation of a part taken care of?
Nowhere. Origin and orientation could be a document in and of itself.
I added some verbiage here:
https://www.ldraw.org/article/512draft.html#origin
I think it's better to write in general terms and let the individual cases be sorted out on the PT but I'm open to rewrite suggestions.
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Orion Pobursky - 2020-07-02
(2020-07-02, 11:34)Willy Tschager Wrote: A constant hassle for newbies is the usage of Metallic vs. Chrome in patterns. May be https://www.ldraw.org/article/512.html#ldconfig is the right place to address that in patterns only Metallic is used to represent shiny colors.
w.
I've added some verbiage here:
https://www.ldraw.org/article/512draft.html#colours
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Orion Pobursky - 2020-07-02
(2020-07-02, 16:27)Willy Tschager Wrote: Then the "blank" rule should be mirrored to https://www.ldraw.org/article/512draft.html#sticker_desc
I've tweaked https://www.ldraw.org/article/512draft.html#sticker_desc to reference the Header spec
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Willy Tschager - 2020-07-03
(2020-07-02, 16:36)Orion Pobursky Wrote: I've added some verbiage here:
https://www.ldraw.org/article/512draft.html#colours
Sorry I don't get it. Is it:
Code:
but does not include the colours of paint used to decorate parts or ink used on stickers.Then it is wrong. Metallic as well as Chrome are defined in LDConfig.ldr. Problem is that pattern and stickers have to use Metallic instead of Chrome.
w.
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Philippe Hurbain - 2020-07-03
(2020-07-03, 7:30)Willy Tschager Wrote: Then it is wrong. Metallic as well as Chrome are defined in LDConfig.ldr. Problem is that pattern and stickers have to use Metallic instead of Chrome.But there are exceptions, eg. mirror stickers that are best rendered with chrome colors...
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Orion Pobursky - 2020-07-03
No it's:
"In general, metallic colours used on printed parts should use the drum lacquer or "ink" colours."
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Magnus Forsberg - 2020-07-04
(2020-07-03, 21:24)Orion Pobursky Wrote: No it's:
"In general, metallic colours used on printed parts should use the drum lacquer or "ink" colours."
Please don't use "Drum lacquer" or "Ink". That's lego nomenclatura. We only say "Metallic" in ldconfig.
Personally I would accept all colour codes in a print, or sticker, except "Pearl", "Rubber" or "Internal Common Material".
Those codes are reserved for parts with material properties.
btw, we are IMO missing a whole section in ldconfig about flat colours to be used on textile parts, like canvas, and capes, and parts made of felt.
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Willy Tschager - 2020-07-04
(2020-07-04, 10:54)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: Please don't use "Drum lacquer" or "Ink". That's lego nomenclatura. We only say "Metallic" in ldconfig.
+1
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RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Orion Pobursky - 2020-07-06
(2020-07-04, 18:06)Willy Tschager Wrote: +1
w.
Ok, I changed the wording to be more clear
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Magnus Forsberg - 2020-07-06
(2020-07-06, 2:47)Orion Pobursky Wrote: Ok, I changed the wording to be more clear
May I suggest another change.
Quote:In general, metallic colours used on stickers, patterned parts, and other printed materials the LDraw Metallic Colours (these colours are referred to by LEGO as drum lacquer or "ink") and not Chrome or Pearl colours.
Quote:In general, metallic colours used on stickers, patterned parts, and other printed materials should use the LDraw Metallic Colours (these colours are referred to by LEGO as drum lacquer or "ink") and not Chrome or Pearl colours.
The comment about drum lacquer and ink is only true on 3 of the metallic colours, silver, gold and copper. I think we should remove that parentheses.
RE: Official Library File Format Restictions - Orion Pobursky - 2020-07-06
I like it. Change made.