Question about the description of a part

[Manfred Schaefer]

Hello,

The minifig heads that have pattern on both sides are labeled “2-Sided Pattern.”
Why isn't this also done for the minifig torso and the minifig torso with arms?

Regards

Manfred

[Magnus Forsberg]

Hello,

The minifig heads that have pattern on both sides are labeled “2-Sided Pattern.”
Why isn't this also done for the minifig torso and the minifig torso with arms?

Regards

Manfred

Because the heads are reversible. The torsos are not.

[Manfred Schaefer]

Because the heads are reversible. The torsos are not.

Okay, thank you.

Correction: the torso itself yes, the torso with arms no.

[Manfred Schaefer]

Because the heads are reversible. The torsos are not.

What's wrong with labeling all parts with patterns on, for example, the front and back with the addition of “2-Sided Pattern”?
It would provide an additional filter or search element and, to my knowledge, does not contradict any rules.
This could possibly become a new rule and create more clarity.

[Chris Böhnke]

While it's not against the rules, a little thought on this:

Backprinting (for non-keychains) was first introduced in 1997 (a promo figure for the Island PC game) and 1998 (with X-Treme and RES-Q). The feature remained relatively rare until ca. 2010, mostly limited to licensed figures which really depended on it (like Spider-Man or C-3PO).

Back then it was "special" so many fan-sites felt it useful to include it in part names.

Since then, things have changed. Nowadays, it's hard to find a torso WITHOUT backprint. Given this abundance makes the inclusion of the word in names or keywords somewhat redundant if you ask me.

As pointed out before, the heads with switchable faces are a bit more special in that regard, since it's an actual "function" (as opposed to heads with an exposed printed backside, like Dwalin, Foot Soldier or Sugi for example).

[Manfred Schaefer]

While it's not against the rules, a little thought on this:

Backprinting (for non-keychains) was first introduced in 1997 (a promo figure for the Island PC game) and 1998 (with X-Treme and RES-Q). The feature remained relatively rare until ca. 2010, mostly limited to licensed figures which really depended on it (like Spider-Man or C-3PO).

Back then it was "special" so many fan-sites felt it useful to include it in part names.

Since then, things have changed. Nowadays, it's hard to find a torso WITHOUT backprint. Given this abundance makes the inclusion of the word in names or keywords somewhat redundant if you ask me.

As pointed out before, the heads with switchable faces are a bit more special in that regard, since it's an actual "function" (as opposed to heads with an exposed printed backside, like Dwalin, Foot Soldier or Sugi for example).

Regardless of the fact that many torsos today have a pattern on the back, there are a lot of torsos in the library that only have a pattern on the front.
As I already wrote, I see the advantage in the additional information, for example when searching.
No problem, it was just a suggestion from me.
I store my Lego pieces in a database with additional information, such as the number of patterns. I have a solution, it's a bit more complicated, but I think it will work. I thought this information might also be helpful for other people.

[Chris Böhnke]

There are times where I consider this information to be useful, but this is mostly before I make a part for LDraw (since the only reliable source these days seems to either have a physical copy of the part or invest time searching for a video showing both sides).

I guess it becomes a thing for builders at times, but mostly if the back has an undesirable print on it not matching what you want.

[Orion Pobursky]

Sounds like a perfect case for a keyword.

[Peter Blomberg]

The term "2-sided pattern" on a minifig head guides the user to account for the fact that the other, the unwanted pattern, needs to be covered with hair, helmet, or other headpiece.

Torsos having print on the back are not designed to be covered. We should therefore avoid using the same term for annotation.

Chris mentions that some minifig head patterns wrap the whole head and are not designed to be covered. These cases should not use the "2-sided" term either.

What would be a good term for annotating parts having print also on the back, not designed to be covered?
"with Backprint"?