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ABB Doors u8013 and u8014 - N. W. Perry - 2021-04-15
It's my understanding that these two parts actually represent a single part with a two-sided design, rather than two parts with distinct designs. Should they be merged? and if so, under what number?
RE: ABB Doors u8013 and u8014 - Philippe Hurbain - 2021-04-17
(2021-04-15, 19:09)N. W. Perry Wrote: It's my understanding that these two parts actually represent a single part with a two-sided design, rather than two parts with distinct designs. Should they be merged? and if so, under what number?I discussed this problem with JC Tchang, who has no clue whether its a single dual sided part or two different ones. If you know for sure that it's a dual sided part then a new uxxx part should be created and u8013 / u8014 be obsoletized.
As quoted and translated from this page https://jc-tchang.philohome.com/histoire/abb.htm :
Quote:Note: I still have to validate whether there is a single type of door with 8 panels on the inside and a door button on the outside or 2 types (Any information on this subject will be welcome).
RE: ABB Doors u8013 and u8014 - N. W. Perry - 2021-04-17
(2021-04-17, 12:37)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: I discussed this problem with JC Tchang, who has no clue whether its a single dual sided part or two different ones. If you know for sure that it's a dual sided part then a new uxxx part should be created and u8013 / u8014 be obsoletized.
As quoted and translated from this page https://jc-tchang.philohome.com/histoire/abb.htm :
Gotcha. I was just about to explain how I was quite sure they were two-sided, even though I have never seen one in person, and couldn't find any videos of somebody actually turning one over…and then I stumbled across this: https://flic.kr/p/2k8ygzm (and also https://flic.kr/p/253vnfn )
Other than that, I've been really scouring the historic literature lately, and it all refers to these early 700B windows and doors coming in 3 window styles and just one door style. And retailer price lists of the period always show the numbering as 700B/1 through 700B/3 for the windows, and 700B/4 for the door. But seeing them molded transparent pretty much settles it for me—I'm glad I just happened to find that!
I have the two-sided part already made up, so it's just a question of the number. u8040 seems to be the next available in the series.
RE: ABB Doors u8013 and u8014 - Philippe Hurbain - 2021-04-18
(2021-04-17, 22:59)N. W. Perry Wrote: Gotcha. I was just about to explain how I was quite sure they were two-sided, even though I have never seen one in person, and couldn't find any videos of somebody actually turning one over…and then I stumbled across this: https://flic.kr/p/2k8ygzm (and also https://flic.kr/p/253vnfn )Oh yes! great find!
Other than that, I've been really scouring the historic literature lately, and it all refers to these early 700B windows and doors coming in 3 window styles and just one door style. And retailer price lists of the period always show the numbering as 700B/1 through 700B/3 for the windows, and 700B/4 for the door. But seeing them molded transparent pretty much settles it for me—I'm glad I just happened to find that!
I have the two-sided part already made up, so it's just a question of the number. u8040 seems to be the next available in the series.
Technically, you need to ask Chris for a uxxx range of parts assigned to you.
RE: ABB Doors u8013 and u8014 - N. W. Perry - 2021-04-18
(2021-04-18, 6:43)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: Oh yes! great find!
Technically, you need to ask Chris for a uxxx range of parts assigned to you.
I will ask him. As far as I know these parts never had identifiers other than the known catalog numbers (700B/4 in this case), but those are kind of awkward to use as part numbers.
RE: ABB Doors u8013 and u8014 - Magnus Forsberg - 2021-04-18
(2021-04-18, 14:17)N. W. Perry Wrote: I will ask him. As far as I know these parts never had identifiers other than the known catalog numbers (700B/4 in this case), but those are kind of awkward to use as part numbers.
Please also ask him to make u8013 and u8014 obsolete.
RE: ABB Doors u8013 and u8014 - N. W. Perry - 2021-04-20
(2021-04-18, 14:37)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: Please also ask him to make u8013 and u8014 obsolete.
I made sure to include that in my request. Will submit the part once I hear back (and also post some new models that use it).
RE: ABB Doors u8013 and u8014 - N. W. Perry - 2021-04-23
The part is now submitted (and the old parts obsoleted):
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/u8040.dat