Parts to be renamed?


RE: Parts to be renamed?
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(2011-10-31, 22:36)Tim Gould Wrote: > If you read the spec, it specifies Australian
> English spellings out of respect for James
> Jessiman who started and maintained the LDraw
> project until his untimely death. This is the
> reason for Tyre, Centre, and "Rubbish Bin".  Yes,
> English words are spelled differently based on the
> region of the world you happen to be in.  Hence,
> !COLOUR vice !COLOR.

And I can assure you each of those is spelled or named correctly.

There actually are parts that aren't (eg. 'grill' should be 'grille' in 50946px1) but I always felt that making a fuss about them would be silly. However since grille is used in most parts I'll raise the issue with Chris.

Tim
Dear,
I wonder if this issue has been thoroughly discussed further in the past 10 years...

I'm fairly new to the forum, but I have been using Stud.io for a while, which populates directly from the LDraw Library. In the Stud.io library I have been encountering many eyebrow-lifting names, spellings and categorisations, and I was glad that somebody had raised the issue that a general check of spelling and categories could be useful to clean up the library.
It being called a can of worms, told me that I'm not the only one finding it very uncomfortable that certain parts are sorted in a way that only makes sense to an intoxicated mind.
e.g. Technic Plate 11x19x1 is categorized/sorted as "Vehicle - Land" -- "Road Sign".

And I also saw a thread where a perfectly correct spelling (in Australian English) was "corrected" to a global misspelling, based on the premise that such misspelling was already used elsewhere in the library... This is not a Cobol database, I presume, so when a misspelling is found, it should be corrected instead of new authors being forced to apply a wrong spelling. (wink to IT staff that is old enough to get that reference Wink ) (The example in question is "propeller", which is the proper Australian English spelling according to ALL online dictionaries that feature the difference between the English spellings that I could find, but which remains spelled "propellor" in the library)

Other blatant errors exist. Example: In Stud.io there is a part called 41125 - "Horse Vet Trailer" which in truth is an 8 x 8 six bladed shuriken. I find neither the partnumber, nor that name back in here, but I wouldn't know how to go about finding how it is actually listed in this library. Regardless, somehow that part carried something that made Stud.io classify it under that strange number and name.

I recognize that the first and the last issue could be due to some coding mistakes on BL premises, perhaps a glitch when matching LD data to BL names/descriptions, but the second issue about the spelling is entirely located here. I regularly have to search the LD library for a part that is still missing in Stud.io for manual import. Would be nice to be able to find the part when I know I'm using the correct spelling, yet I still can't get any hits back from the search function.

And while we're at it: I deeply understand how certain gestures are done to show respect, but when those gestures cause more confusion than clarity for the vast majority of users, then the initial goals of the founder are not respected at all... Banning prevalent spelling in favor of exotic obscure spelling, is imho not an effective way of remembering respectfully. After all, the memory will be associated with frustration and confusion. Not a way that I would want to be remembered. So maybe it is a good moment to reconsider the ways we remember the founder of this great initiative, implement them in a more constructive and pleasant way, and apply prevalence over rigidity onto the spelling rules. If you must, keep one or two very specific names, but at least add the normal spelling too. Only a tiny minority of users is privy to the inner secrets of the Australian typography. The rest of us ignorants has to rely on what normal spellcheckers teach us... Smile

Thank you for your time and attention, and for all effort put into this library. (sincere gratitude, not everything I write is irony... =D )

Luke.
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Messages In This Thread
Parts to be renamed? - by Tim Gould - 2011-10-30, 11:08
Re: Parts to be renamed? - by Roland Melkert - 2011-10-30, 17:51
Re: Parts to be renamed? - by Tim Gould - 2011-10-30, 23:12
Re: Parts to be renamed? - by Chris Dee - 2011-10-31, 4:13
Re: Parts to be renamed? - by Tim Gould - 2011-10-31, 22:20
Re: Parts to be renamed? - by Allen Smith - 2011-10-31, 16:07
Re: Parts to be renamed? - by Jude Parrill - 2011-10-31, 4:53
Re: Parts to be renamed? - by Tim Gould - 2011-10-31, 22:36
RE: Parts to be renamed? - by Luke Arts - 2021-03-09, 5:22
RE: Parts to be renamed? - by Willy Tschager - 2021-03-09, 14:22
RE: Parts to be renamed? - by Gerald Lasser - 2021-03-09, 23:04
Re: Parts to be renamed? - by Tim Gould - 2011-10-31, 22:26

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