Missing color in LDConfig


Missing color in LDConfig
#1
I'm going to post two new patterned tiles 1 x 1 which use Metallic Light Blue color.

This color is missing from LDConfig so, for now, I will submit both parts with simple Light Blue color and will modify them as soon as the new color is available.
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(2020-05-27, 7:01)Vincent Messenet Wrote: I'm going to post two new patterned tiles 1 x 1 which use Metallic Light Blue color.

This color is missing from LDConfig so, for now, I will submit both parts with simple Light Blue color and will modify them as soon as the new color is available.

I revive the subject as I just noticed on PT that a new part need that color:
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...256ph1.dat

The following official files may be updated as well:
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-par...d=3070bp0o
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-par...d=3070bp0p
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(2021-05-21, 5:26)Vincent Messenet Wrote: I revive the subject as I just noticed on PT that a new part need that color:
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...256ph1.dat

The following official files may be updated as well:
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-par...d=3070bp0o
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-par...d=3070bp0p

I checked BL, Ryan Howerter and Swooshable but couldn't find this color. Would you please provide some pictures?

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(2021-05-21, 6:15)Willy Tschager Wrote: I checked BL, Ryan Howerter and Swooshable but couldn't find this color. Would you please provide some pictures?

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Looks like we also need an Opal_Trans_Dark_Blue
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zM6Vfs7U1dI/Y...ces-28.jpg
and Opal_Trans_Green
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FnikqoyZXjg/Y...t_view.jpg
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(2021-05-21, 6:15)Willy Tschager Wrote: I checked BL, Ryan Howerter and Swooshable but couldn't find this color. Would you please provide some pictures?

This color has so far only been used in printed patterns. Never as a material colour on parts. That's way it can't be found on those places.

It is actually very common in printed patterns.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page...20blue#T=A
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#6
The new colors are:

0 !COLOUR Metallic_Light_Blue                                  CODE 10045 VALUE #97CBD9  EDGE #333333                              METAL

0 !COLOUR Opal_Trans_Dark_Blue                            CODE 10043 VALUE #0020A0  EDGE #000B38  ALPHA 200  LUMINANCE 5    MATERIAL GLITTER VALUE #FFFFFF FRACTION 0.8 VFRACTION 0.6 MINSIZE 0.02 MAXSIZE 0.1

0 !COLOUR Opal_Trans_Green                                   CODE 10048 VALUE #237841  EDGE #174F2B  ALPHA 200  LUMINANCE 5    MATERIAL GLITTER VALUE #FFFFFF FRACTION 0.8 VFRACTION 0.6 MINSIZE 0.02 MAXSIZE 0.1

I'll see if I get the color codes for the opal colors.

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(2021-06-01, 15:02)Willy Tschager Wrote: I'll see if I get the color codes for the opal colors.

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The new numbers are in Ryan's list, and at Brickset.

366 - https://brickset.com/parts/colour-Transparent-Blue-Opal
367 - https://brickset.com/parts/colour-Transp...Green-Opal
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(2021-06-07, 15:46)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: The new numbers are in Ryan's list, and at Brickset.

366 - https://brickset.com/parts/colour-Transparent-Blue-Opal
367 - https://brickset.com/parts/colour-Transp...Green-Opal

I know. I'm curious if also the RGBs will pop up.

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#9
Magnus has rearranged some of the pearl and metallic colours while I have added the three colours requested above using the RGBs of similar colors in use.

0 // LDraw Pearlescent Plastic Colours
0 !COLOUR Metallic_Light_Blue  CODE 10045 VALUE #97CBD9  EDGE #333333  PEARLESCENT

0 // LDraw Glitter Colours
0 // LEGOID 367 - Transparent Green Opal
0 !COLOUR Opal_Trans_Green CODE 367  VALUE #237841  EDGE #174F2B  ALPHA 200  LUMINANCE 5 MATERIAL GLITTER VALUE #0B270B FRACTION 0.8 VFRACTION 0.6 MINSIZE 0.02 MAXSIZE 0.1
0 // LEGOID 366 - Transparent Blue Opal
0 !COLOUR Opal_Trans_Dark_Blue CODE 10366 VALUE #0020A0  EDGE #000B38  ALPHA 200  LUMINANCE 5    MATERIAL GLITTER VALUE #001D38 FRACTION 0.8 VFRACTION 0.6 MINSIZE 0.02 MAXSIZE 0.1

Here's the updated LDConfig for the next parts update:


.ldr   LDConfig.ldr (Size: 35.98 KB / Downloads: 8)

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(2021-06-13, 15:52)Willy Tschager Wrote: 0 // LDraw Pearlescent Plastic Colours
0 !COLOUR Metallic_Light_Blue  CODE 10045 VALUE #97CBD9  EDGE #333333  PEARLESCENT

IMHO the Metallic Light Blue (code 10045) is a metallic paint colour, not pearlescent plastic. It should be moved.
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#11
"Metallic Pink" colour is also needed.
I'll submit these parts in DOTS sets
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/cat...1#T=C&C=11
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/cat...1#T=C&C=11

This colour appears as printed patterns (not material colour) AFAIK.
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#12
It's time for some new colours. I count four missing now.

363 Opal Trans Black
https://brickset.com/parts/colour-Transp...Brown-Opal

365 Opal Trans Purple
https://brickset.com/parts/colour-Transp...iolet-Opal

???  Metallic Pink, as a paint colour used in prints
https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-24059-po...l#pid42570
https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/PN/1...6pb003.png

???  Flourecent Yellow
New for next year sets. Used in rescue vehicles in City sets 2022.
https://brickset.com/sets/theme-City/yea...theme-Fire
https://images.brickset.com/news/67466_Mei%2012A.jpg
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(2021-12-21, 17:27)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: ???  Metallic Pink, as a paint colour used in prints
https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-24059-po...l#pid42570
https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/PN/1...6pb003.png

At one point there was a metallic blue paint color we were waiting on, or has that been done?
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(2021-12-21, 23:55)N. W. Perry Wrote: At one point there was a metallic blue paint color we were waiting on, or has that been done?

It is included in the version of ldconfig present in this thread above, but in the wrong section.
https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-24059-po...l#pid41709

Metallic light blue will use code 10045. A corrected version should be included in the next part release.
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(2021-12-21, 17:27)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: It's time for some new colours. I count four missing now.

363 Opal Trans Black
https://brickset.com/parts/colour-Transp...Brown-Opal

365 Opal Trans Purple
https://brickset.com/parts/colour-Transp...iolet-Opal

???  Metallic Pink, as a paint colour used in prints
https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-24059-po...l#pid42570
https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/PN/1...6pb003.png

???  Flourecent Yellow
New for next year sets. Used in rescue vehicles in City sets 2022.
https://brickset.com/sets/theme-City/yea...theme-Fire
https://images.brickset.com/news/67466_Mei%2012A.jpg

I'll investigate on the color numbers and add them.

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The new colors are:

0  // LEGOID 363 - Transparent Brown Opal
0 !COLOUR Opal_Trans_Black CODE 363  VALUE #635F52  EDGE #2A2823  ALPHA 200  LUMINANCE 5    MATERIAL GLITTER VALUE #292522 FRACTION 0.8 VFRACTION 0.6 MINSIZE 0.02 MAXSIZE 0.1

0  // LEGOID 365 - Transparent Violet Opal
0 !COLOUR Opal_Trans_Purple  CODE 365  VALUE #671F81  EDGE #441456  ALPHA 200  LUMINANCE 5    MATERIAL GLITTER VALUE #2F1456 FRACTION 0.8 VFRACTION 0.6 MINSIZE 0.02 MAXSIZE 0.1

0 !COLOUR Metallic_Pink  CODE 10046 VALUE #AD659A  EDGE #333333                              PEARLESCENT

0 !COLOUR Flourecent_Yellow CODE 10048 VALUE #FAE600  EDGE #333333
(This is a placeholder as neither color code nor RGB are available

Here is the updated LDConfig:
.ldr   LDConfig.ldr (Size: 36.84 KB / Downloads: 6)

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#17
Again?
IMHO the Metallic Pink (code 10046) is a metallic paint colour, not pearlescent plastic. It should be moved.

It should be placed after Metallic Light Blue, code 10046
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Flourecent_Yellow -> Fluorescent_Yellow
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(2021-12-26, 18:45)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: Again?
IMHO the Metallic Pink (code 10046) is a metallic paint colour, not pearlescent plastic. It should be moved.

It should be placed after Metallic Light Blue, code 10046

No, according to BS and Ryan Howerter this is not paint:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/

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(2021-12-26, 18:53)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: Flourecent_Yellow -> Fluorescent_Yellow

Fixed.

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(2021-12-26, 19:01)Willy Tschager Wrote: No, according to BS and Ryan Howerter this is not paint:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/

w.

Is it really? We all thought the gold on the Pharoh hat was the part color but it turned out to be a full part paint. Since the only pic I can find the the one you linked I'm not convinced.
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(2021-12-26, 19:19)Orion Pobursky Wrote: Is it really? We all thought the gold on the Pharoh hat was the part color but it turned out to be a full part paint. Since the only pic I can find the the one you linked I'm not convinced.

Ok. Scratch everything I wrote above. That said, the color linked in the examples is clearly an ink, not a plastic color.
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(2021-12-26, 19:21)Orion Pobursky Wrote: That said, the color linked in the examples is clearly an ink, not a plastic color.

I say we might have 2 different shades of metallic pink then.  And both are metallic paint, not  pearlesent plastic.
[Image: clikits013apb05.jpg?0]

and this
[Image: 24246pb003.png]
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0 !COLOUR Metallic_Pink  CODE 10046 VALUE #AD659A  EDGE #333333 METAL
0 !COLOUR Metallic_Light_Pink  CODE 10049 VALUE #FECCCF  EDGE #333333 METAL

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#25
Looks like the official name is Vibrant Yellow, number 368
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/51745770468
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#26
After a little chitchat with Ryan I added:

0 // LEGOID 368 - Vibrant Yellow
0 !COLOUR Vibrant Yellow CODE 368  VALUE #DADA00  EDGE #333333

The Hex was sampled from one of Lego's customer service part renders, so it is nor official nor very accurate.

Here's the updated LDConfig:


.ldr   LDConfig.ldr (Size: 37.19 KB / Downloads: 6)

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(2022-01-09, 12:30)Willy Tschager Wrote: 0 // LEGOID 368 - Vibrant Yellow
0 !COLOUR Vibrant_Yellow CODE 368  VALUE #DADA00  EDGE #333333

LDCad needed the underscore in "Vibrant_Yellow" in order to display it.
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Thanks to Magnus who pointed me to it I added a new color to the LDConfig:

0 // LEGOID 370 - Medium Brown
0 !COLOUR Medium_Brown CODE 370  VALUE #755945  EDGE #333333

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(2022-03-09, 15:49)Willy Tschager Wrote: Thanks to Magnus who pointed me to it I added a new color to the LDConfig:

0 // LEGOID 370 - Medium Brown
0 !COLOUR Medium_Brown CODE 370  VALUE #755945  EDGE #333333

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Is there a direct link to the config? Or I suppose I can c/v…
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(2022-03-09, 15:49)Willy Tschager Wrote: Thanks to Magnus who pointed me to it I added a new color to the LDConfig:

0 // LEGOID 370 - Medium Brown
0 !COLOUR Medium_Brown CODE 370  VALUE #755945  EDGE #333333

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And here's a line for the file with coloured edges
0 !COLOUR Medium_Brown                      CODE 370  VALUE #755945  EDGE #533F31
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#31
I added the ostrich and it has Light Nougat legs and head. However the head is made of rubber.

i think we shall have this one added as well
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(2022-03-15, 10:25)Gerald Lasser Wrote: I added the ostrich and it has Light Nougat legs and head. However the head is made of rubber.

i think we shall have this one added as well

The next update will be the first or second weekend in May so we have until then to figure out what additional colours we want to add.
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#33
Uploaded updated file with the two new colors to the server.

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0                              // LEGOID 179 - Silver Flip-flop
0 !COLOUR Flat_Silver                                          CODE 179  VALUE #898788  EDGE #333333                              PEARLESCENT

0                              // LEGOID 296 / 131 / 315 - Cool Silver / Silver / Silver Metallic
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Light_Grey                                      CODE 135  VALUE #A0A0A0  EDGE #333333                              PEARLESCENT

Why color list lists Silver Flip-flop as Flat Silver, and Cool Silver, Silver and Silver Metallic as a single color named "Pearl Light Gray"? Lego Silver colors is a bit convoluted topic, I know it, but current listing of those colors seem to be pretty incorrect with merging 3 of silver colors, and calling one of them "Flat Silver", putting it into similar name with very different color Flat Dark Gold, more typical pearl color unlike Silver Flip-flop (which has it's own copper and gold counterparts)
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#35
As you said, this has been discussed before and we all agree on those three being the same shade of coloured plastic.
Best illustration is in Ryan's timeline of colours here : https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15801189140


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(2022-03-24, 17:02)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: As you said, this has been discussed before and we all agree on those three being the same shade of coloured plastic.
Best illustration is in Ryan's timeline of colours here : https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15801189140

Okay, makes sense about timeline, but I can't agree those are same shade. There are two shades of original 131 Silver, one used by the ABS parts, and another one by parts made of softer plastic (like minifigure weapons), and first looks similar to Cool Silver, while second to Silver Metallic.

By the way wouldn't it be better to rename Flip-flop Silver into something that is not "Flat Silver"? It is a bit confusing for very unique pearl color to be named same way with the another one, that is pretty normal pearl, and also minding it's the name BL uses for Silver Metallic/some parts of 131 Silver.

Also, I think inclusion of Flip-flop Red and Flip-flop Yellow would be good.
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(2022-03-24, 17:23)Max Murtazin Wrote: By the way wouldn't it be better to rename Flip-flop Silver into something that is not "Flat Silver"? It is a bit confusing for very unique pearl color to be named same way with the another one, that is pretty normal pearl, and also minding it's the name BL uses for Silver Metallic/some parts of 131 Silver.

Also, I think inclusion of Flip-flop Red and Flip-flop Yellow would be good.

Well BL calls Flip/Flop colors Bionicle Copper/Gold/Silver. I doubt that those sound much better.

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(2022-03-24, 20:36)Willy Tschager Wrote: Well BL calls Flip/Flop colors Bionicle Copper/Gold/Silver. I doubt that those sound much better.

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BL doesn't have name for them actually, it just includes them in other colors (which is very normal thing for BL, it merges colors all the time). But I think just calling them Flip-flop would be enough. It's a name everyone knows if they're aware of existence of those colors

Upd. Oh wait they do now. Didn't know
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.ldr   LDConfig.ldr (Size: 38.32 KB / Downloads: 13)

Here's the current LDConfig.ldr file with 370 Medium brown and 371 Warm Tan added.

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(2023-04-11, 11:39)Willy Tschager Wrote: Here's the current LDConfig.ldr file with 370 Medium brown and 371 Warm Tan added.

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Shouldn't be all the silver colors separated each, not clustered into one big messy ball of "pearl light gray"?
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(2023-04-11, 12:54)Max Murtazin Wrote: Shouldn't be all the silver colors separated each, not clustered into one big messy ball of "pearl light gray"?

The colors were grouped according to Ryan's timeline :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15801189140

With new colors substituting older ones.

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(2023-04-11, 12:54)Max Murtazin Wrote: Shouldn't be all the silver colors separated each, not clustered into one big messy ball of "pearl light gray"?

As you got the same answer from two different people:

https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-24059-po...l#pid45467

I hope you got convinced this time.

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(2023-04-11, 12:54)Max Murtazin Wrote: Shouldn't be all the silver colors separated each, not clustered into one big messy ball of "pearl light gray"?

(2023-04-11, 15:28)Willy Tschager Wrote: The colors were grouped according to Ryan's timeline :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15801189140

With new colors substituting older ones.

w.

You can always customize the LDConfig to your own needs using the values from Ryan's master list.
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