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Re: Aligning Categories to user expectations - Steffen - 2013-08-30

I've just changed my mind: in a post further below on this page I suggested to
deprecate light.dat because it is POVRay-specific. It is not. It is a generic helper
which by WHATEVER renderer can be used to place light sources.
For example LDView can do that.

So after sleeping this one night over, I changed my mind:

Yes, this is probably the right time to introduce a "Helper" category, but I also think
we should at the same time introduce a "Helper" subfolder in the library
where these parts go, and MOVE-TO light.dat to there.

This overlaps with the discussion of the stud detail files
and the primitives of different resolutions.

In the long run, I would like to see in this helper category files like Willy created (maybe, simply, his? Willy?)
http://www.holly-wood.it/ldraw/helper-en.html
You need these frequently, and not everybody wants to create them again and again.
If you like the ones in the library - use them,
if you better like your own, custom ones, use your own.

I ALSO think that the LSYNTH constraint files belong into that category:

We should not regard them as LSYNTH specific. They are placeholders for ANY generator which
synthesizes flexible parts. They are simply the files which put the CONSTRAINTS for that generator
into a model. This is fully analogous to LIGHT.DAT which simply says where ANY renderer COULD put a lightsource.


Re: Aligning Categories to user expectations - Roland Melkert - 2013-08-31

This is also a weird one:

0 Cardboard Trading Card
0 Name: 384.dat

in panel category


Re: Aligning Categories to user expectations - Chris Dee - 2013-08-31

Maybe move to CATEGORY Sheet ?


Re: Aligning Categories to user expectations - Willy Tschager - 2013-08-31

Steffen Wrote:In the long run, I would like to see in this helper category files like Willy created (maybe, simply, his? Willy?)
http://www.holly-wood.it/ldraw/helper-en.html

If there are more people who think that they should be submitted to the PT I'll do.

Steffen Wrote:I ALSO think that the LSYNTH constraint files belong into that category:

Same here.

w.


Re: Aligning Categories to user expectations - Steffen - 2013-08-31

+1!

For example, the Duplo Train parts should be in categories "Duplo" and "Train" IMHO.

However, this will change how the parts lists nowadays usually behave:
each part appears there uniquely currently, just a single time.
Putting a single part into multiple categories will break that principle.
Parts will show in various categories. We should carefully consider if this is
SIMPLER for the users or more CONFUSING.


Re: Aligning Categories to user expectations - Orion Pobursky - 2013-08-31

For me it is simpler but that might not be true for everyone. Actually, what I'd like to see in most programs is the ability to have user defined buckets based on rules or simply selection (something like smart playlists and regular playlists in iTunes). MLCad has this for the most part but Bricksmith does not (aside from the favorites list).

It's really a moot point since the number 1 LDraw program (MLCad) doesn't support CATEGORY, isn't being actively developed, and isn't open source.