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Official part 4719 : part variation problem ? - Bertrand Lequy - 2026-01-25 Hello, I'm still sorting some things out with LDraw parts on RB and I have a question about the part 4719. apparently two mold variations exist with three different ways of naming them according to RB. - the 80's version, with a normal stud over the rear wheel and a normal hollowed stud over the front wheel named 4719 : ![]() - the actual version, with a hollowed over the rear wheel and a reinforced hollowed stud over the front wheel named 4719 or 65574 : ![]() The problem is that the part on the part tracker seems to be a mix of both mold. Should we fix it, and how ? - do nothing ? - 4719 for the old one and 65574 for the new one ? - 4719 for the old one and 4719a for the new one ? - 4719 for the new one and 4719a for the old one ? - something else ? Thank you. RE: Official part 4719 : part variation problem ? - Philippe Hurbain - 2026-01-25 According to RB chart (https://rebrickable.com/parts/65574/bicycle-frame-reinforced-headlight-hollow-stud/, page bottom), there is a rather sharp transition in 2012 between 4719 and 65574. Most 3D meshes from LEGO use 4719 reference. The older ones (LDD) appear with plain stud/normal front stud, while the most recent ones (BIs rev>2) use hollow stud/reinforced front stud. So I think we should correct 4719 with a plain stud, and create 65574 with hollow stud/reinforced front stud. RE: Official part 4719 : part variation problem ? - Gerald Lasser - 2026-01-25 Both meshes are on BI as 4719, but with a different versioning, A is the old one, B and above is the modern one. RE: Official part 4719 : part variation problem ? - Chris Böhnke - 2026-01-26 Are they identical otherwise? I agree the current one does not exist. However I am beginning to believe there are more versions:
Since the assembly will likely need a new library entry as well, I think we should use 73537 for the old one here too. RE: Official part 4719 : part variation problem ? - Gerald Lasser - 2026-01-26 (2026-01-26, 0:02)Chris Böhnke Wrote: Are they identical otherwise? Didn't they ship assembled first? The mesh has no indent at the wheelholders to allow for an easy sliding in of the wheel RE: Official part 4719 : part variation problem ? - Chris Böhnke - 2026-01-26 Yes, that's the assembly 73537. I couldn't verify exactly, but seems this was made from 1985 to either 2001 (Metroliner Re-Release) or 2007 (Cafe Corner). There were also a couple Educational/Dacta sets with bicycles during that era, but since those even changed motorbikes for trikes (amongst other parts), I wouldn't count these as "reliable source". The wheel indent sounds logical - I assume then this is 33485/4719(b) from 2009 (First seen in Set 7639)? |