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Final Sticker Back Standard - Orion Pobursky - 2025-07-23
Here's the final sticker back standard. I am in the middle of a documentation overhaul and this will get folded into the that. Until then, this will live here.
https://www.ldraw.org/docs-main/ldraw-org-official-library-standards/sticker-box-standard.html
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Massimo Maso - 2025-07-23
(2025-07-23, 2:06)Orion Pobursky Wrote: Here's the final sticker back standard. I am in the middle of a documentation overhaul and this will get folded into the that. Until then, this will live here.
https://www.ldraw.org/docs-main/ldraw-org-official-library-standards/sticker-box-standard.html
Hello,
I have started to play with the rules indicated and perhaps some further refinement is needed. Attached are two sample sheets (new parts) as an example a little more extensive for what we are going to have.
- In the name of the stickerback, it would be better to indicate immediately whether the values are rounded or integer. Possiblity of different stickerback for different parts with same rounded dimensions. Maybe you put a !HELP line with the part number where to attach it, but then you have to open the file to see it.
- In the name of the stickerback, it would be better to indicate immediately if it has an irregular shape. A final "I" may be enough for example.
- In the case of formed stickers, in which the partname derives strictly from the part on which it is to be attached, what description should be used? "Stickerback ZZZ x XXX Formed" or "[Partname] - Stickerback ZZZ x XXX Formed"
- in the case of formed stickers, is the orientation to be used the one with which it should be attached to the piece or that of the flat sticker? See for example 11477 and 15068. 90 degree rotation required so ZZZ and XXX exchange.
- In the case of stickers to be formed, I removed the intermediate points on side faces for connection with upper faces. Maybe I should have entered a trace with a HELP of where the points were?
Massimo
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Orion Pobursky - 2025-07-23
(2025-07-23, 16:35)Massimo Maso Wrote: - In the name of the stickerback, it would be better to indicate immediately whether the values are rounded or integer. Possiblity of different stickerback for different parts with same rounded dimensions. Maybe you put a !HELP line with the part number where to attach it, but then you have to open the file to see it.
I'm not sure I understand this question
(2025-07-23, 16:35)Massimo Maso Wrote: - In the name of the stickerback, it would be better to indicate immediately if it has an irregular shape. A final "I" may be enough for example.
Irregular, flat stickers dont need a sticker back.
(2025-07-23, 16:35)Massimo Maso Wrote: - In the case of formed stickers, in which the partname derives strictly from the part on which it is to be attached, what description should be used? "Stickerback ZZZ x XXX Formed" or "[Partname] - Stickerback ZZZ x XXX Formed"
I've been going with Sticker Back ZZZ x XXX (Formed)
(2025-07-23, 16:35)Massimo Maso Wrote: - in the case of formed stickers, is the orientation to be used the one with which it should be attached to the piece or that of the flat sticker? See for example 11477 and 15068. 90 degree rotation required so ZZZ and XXX exchange.
Orientation on the sticker. Dimension order should remain the same as the flat sticker.
(2025-07-23, 16:35)Massimo Maso Wrote: - In the case of stickers to be formed, I removed the intermediate points on side faces for connection with upper faces. Maybe I should have entered a trace with a HELP of where the points were?
I'm not sure I understand this question as well.
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Orion Pobursky - 2025-07-25
Massimo,
I saw all the sticker revisions you just submitted and I'd like to say I appreciate your responsiveness to the change.
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Magnus Forsberg - 2025-07-25
(2025-07-25, 22:37)Orion Pobursky Wrote: Massimo,
I saw all the sticker revisions you just submitted and I'd like to say I appreciate your responsiveness to the change.
Couldn't agree more, love it!!
I can take care of the abandoned, old subfiles in the "delete"-folder tomorrow.
Let us know if you need help with any renumbering.
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Massimo Maso - 2025-07-29
Hi,
for now I'm mainly fixing my stickers. In the meantime, I also fix some mistakes that I left around.
I ask you to take a look at these stickers because they have the same nominal size (rounded), but they are really different because they are applied on different parts.
6221805j and 6177960d (stickerback008x024). Probably 6221805 can go without stickerback.
6221805l and 6221654d (stickerback008x016 trapezoidal for both).
6221657w and 6253679x (stickerback008x012).
Massimo
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Magnus Forsberg - 2025-07-30
Do we need to standardize the stickerback descriptions?
I just edited some of them, the minor amount.
Should it be Sticker Back or Stickerback?
Should it be Formed or (Formed)?
I think now all unofficial use Stickerback and Formed, but it looks like all official use Sticker Back and (Formed).
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Orion Pobursky - 2025-07-30
(2025-07-30, 7:12)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: Sticker Back and (Formed).
This is what I established when I started renaming things. I apologize if that wasn't clear.
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Magnus Forsberg - 2025-07-30
(2025-07-30, 13:37)Orion Pobursky Wrote: This is what I established when I started renaming things. I apologize if that wasn't clear.
Would it be possible to script a fix from your end, or do I need to manually edit them?
I can do it.
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Orion Pobursky - 2025-07-30
I can probably code something up.
We also need to address if/how we want to name non-square/rectangular sticker backs if creation is desired.
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Orion Pobursky - 2025-07-30
(2025-07-30, 15:13)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: Would it be possible to script a fix from your end
Done.
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Magnus Forsberg - 2025-07-30
(2025-07-30, 17:28)Orion Pobursky Wrote: Done.
Thank you.
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Magnus Forsberg - 2025-08-01
"The backing box is defined as the sides and bottom surface of the sticker"
Is it ok to have the bottom surface in another subfile, or does it have to be included in the box file?
https://library.ldraw.org/parts/42394
https://library.ldraw.org/parts/45345
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Orion Pobursky - 2025-08-01
(2025-08-01, 20:34)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: https://library.ldraw.org/parts/42394
I've addressed on the tracker.
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Takeshi Takahashi - 2025-08-13
Hello,
I am now reworking my existing stickers to meet the latest standards.
https://library.ldraw.org/parts/list?tableSearch=4603014
But I have a question about 4603014b.
This sticker has irregular shape of "Open" sign, sharing with that of another set 41035 (probably more) and not a full-face sticker linked with a parent brick.
Should the back file s\4603014bs01 be renamed to "stickerback012x015a" or remain as is?
RE: Final Sticker Back Standard - Magnus Forsberg - 2025-08-13
(2025-08-13, 3:02)Takeshi Takahashi Wrote: Should the back file s\4603014bs01 be renamed to "stickerback012x015a" or remain as is?
Yes, I think it should be "stickerback012x015a", since it is reused, but I don't know how to describe the shape.