Missing templates in LDCad - Printable Version

Missing templates in LDCad - Printable Version

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Missing templates in LDCad - Roland Melkert - 2024-12-06

Hello all.

Before I release LDCad 1.7 beta 2 I also want to update its default template collection.

For this I'm looking to compile a list of missing flexible parts.

So if you have any suggestions on what to add (or change) please let me know here.

RE: Missing templates in LDCad - N. W. Perry - 2024-12-07

Not a missing template, but something I've always wondered…

What is (or is supposed to be) the difference between the Technic flex system hose and the rigid 3mm hose? I know that the flex system hose is the sheath for flex system cables from the late 90s, and the rigid hose presumably refers to the decorative tubes that are used in modern sets, but do these actually represent different real-world parts? The existing templates are slightly different, but identical at a glance. Should they just be merged into one template?

A similar question (that has come up before) is whether the pneumatic hose is different from the pre-pneumatic era rubber hoses used in some early Technic and Space sets.

Finally, I have made some improvements for my own use to the Technic ribbed hose that seems to better match the correct dimensions. (Basically the ribs are a bit fatter and more rounded.) If there is interest I'd be happy to share my files (though this might have to go in hand with updating the static parts in the library).

RE: Missing templates in LDCad - Rene Rechthaler - 2024-12-07

the parts are not availiable with cable:
https://library.ldraw.org/parts/32654
(the other one isnt done yet, wanted to get this one checked)
could be like the motors with flexible cable attached

RE: Missing templates in LDCad - Magnus Forsberg - 2024-12-07

Here are some examples I think are missing:

The template for control stick 4592-4593 is not correct. The stick is misplaced. Use part 73587a.dat

I can't find any of the rubber treads, like 71372, 3096, 486, 71735, 43903.
Or do they only need to be in the static, formed shapes we have?
How about Conveyor Belt 92713 ?

How about all the Technic Chain Tread versions?
69900, 3873, 57518, 88323, 69910.
I think they all share a common base geometry, so maybe one template cover them all?

Minifig accessories
25375, Tassel Hanging
67100p01, Minifig Weapon Nunchaku with Black Handles
30218, Animal Clam
33009, Minifig Book
62698, Minifig Computer Laptop
4449, Minifig Suitcase
37172, Minifig Suitcase with Long Handle
93225, Minifig Spray Gun with Hose
93087, Animal Horse Friends Bridle

16981, Plant Vine with 10 Leaves 16L
2518c01, Plant Tree Palm with 7-Segmented Trunk Brown and Large Leaves
73828, Plant Vine with 8 Thorns 10L (don't remember if my copy is from Philo)
98567, Tool Belt 17L
67196, Bracelet 25L with 14 x 1 Studs
66821, Bracelet 25L with 14 x 2 Studs
65130, Strap 2 x 16 with End Rings

String Braided with Studs, have been updated and use different flex sections
71149, String Braided 41L with End Studs
76065, String Braided 21L with End Studs and Minifig Grips

There are 2 different chain geometries
30104
60169, is a new version with different length on the links.

RE: Missing templates in LDCad - Roland Melkert - 2024-12-07

(2024-12-07, 3:25)N. W. Perry Wrote: What is (or is supposed to be) the difference between the Technic flex system hose and the rigid 3mm hose? I know that the flex system hose is the sheath for flex system cables from the late 90s, and the rigid hose presumably refers to the decorative tubes that are used in modern sets, but do these actually represent different real-world parts? The existing templates are slightly different, but identical at a glance. Should they just be merged into one template?

I don't know, might be the same part number but the template differ slightly in the tube ends.

(2024-12-07, 3:25)N. W. Perry Wrote: A similar question (that has come up before) is whether the pneumatic hose is different from the pre-pneumatic era rubber hoses used in some early Technic and Space sets.

For me it is enough to have a separate (identical) template just for the description and find ability.

(2024-12-07, 3:25)N. W. Perry Wrote: Finally, I have made some improvements for my own use to the Technic ribbed hose that seems to better match the correct dimensions. (Basically the ribs are a bit fatter and more rounded.) If there is interest I'd be happy to share my files (though this might have to go in hand with updating the static parts in the library).

I limit the default templates to official parts, other (custom) dependencies go in the donor parts folder.

(2024-12-07, 15:25)Rene Rechthaler Wrote: the parts are not availiable with cable:
https://library.ldraw.org/parts/32654
(the other one isnt done yet, wanted to get this one checked)
could be like the motors with flexible cable attached

Should be possible once all the needed parts are official. But like I wrote in pm nothing stops you from using unofficial part in your own templates.

(2024-12-07, 18:58)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: Here are some examples I think are missing:

Quite a list thanks, some are problematic though I'll will have to investigate things like the rubber tracks and tool belt etc.

The short cuts are kind of obsolete as most of them can be replaced by inlining one of the official 'complete' parts. I've been thinking about removing a big chunk of them as its almost impossible to keep them up to date.

RE: Missing templates in LDCad - Philippe Hurbain - 2024-12-09

(2024-12-06, 22:52)Roland Melkert Wrote: Hello all.

Before I release LDCad 1.7 beta 2 I also want to update its default template collection.

For this I'm looking to compile a list of missing flexible parts.

So if you have any suggestions on what to add (or change) please let me know here.

I gathered the templates sitting in my path folder, here attached. Feel free to edit, rename, etc Wink

RE: Missing templates in LDCad - Roland Melkert - 2024-12-09

(2024-12-09, 8:44)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: I gathered the templates sitting in my path folder, here attached. Feel free to edit, rename, etc

Thanks, most of these can be used 1 on 1 Big Grin