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Rename some axlehol primitives - Magnus Forsberg - 2024-01-13

I want to separate the axle primitives from the axle hole primitives, but some names are now confusing.

After the redesign of the axlehole primitive families there are now three primitives that are named axleholX but should only be used in axles. These are only used in different axle designs, but are named as if they are a primitive for an axle hole.

axlehol8.dat  "Technic Axle Hole Perimeter"
[Image: 200px-Axlehol8.png]
axlehol9.dat  "Technic Axle Hole Tooth Inner Edges"
[Image: 200px-Axlehol9.png]
axleho10.dat   "Technic Axle Hole Tooth Surface"
[Image: 200px-Axleho10.png]



Is there a way to rename them, and perhaps prohibit them from being used in a design as a hole primitive?
Or would it be enough to only sort them on the prim ref page?


And as a side note, do we need a new primitive for an axle hole with open ends? I don't think we do.
 axl2hol8.dat
[Image: 200px-Axl2hol8.png]  
axl3hol8.dat
 [Image: 200px-Axl3hol8.png]

Note how the surfaces in the 3 axlXhol8 prims are oriented.
axlehol8 have the surface facing outwards, while the other 2 have it facing inwards, as a hole.

RE: Rename some axlehol primitives - Willy Tschager - 2024-01-13

(2024-01-13, 21:50)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: I want to separate the axle primitives from the axle hole primitives, but some names are now confusing.

After the redesign of the axlehole primitive families there are now three primitives that are named axleholX but should only be used in axles. These are only used in different axle designs, but are named as if they are a primitive for an axle hole.

axlehol8.dat  "Technic Axle Hole Perimeter"
[Image: 200px-Axlehol8.png]
axlehol9.dat  "Technic Axle Hole Tooth Inner Edges"
[Image: 200px-Axlehol9.png]
axleho10.dat   "Technic Axle Hole Tooth Surface"
[Image: 200px-Axleho10.png]



Is there a way to rename them, and perhaps prohibit them from being used in a design as a hole primitive?
Or would it be enough to only sort them on the prim ref page?

Men! There are a lot of parts using it:

https://library.ldraw.org/official/22070

Everything we do it should be done WITHOUT touching or fast-tracking those parts. I would obsolete it and create an identical part with new name and description.

w.

RE: Rename some axlehol primitives - Magnus Forsberg - 2024-01-20

This is my suggestion:

Keep the name on the files, but edit thier descriptions with a fasttrack.
Sort the files as axle primitives on the reference page.
Ban them from beeing used as axlehole primitives.

axlehol8.dat  "Technic Axle Hole Perimeter"
axlehol9.dat  "Technic Axle Hole Tooth Inner Edges"
axleho10.dat  "Technic Axle Hole Tooth Surface"

Maybe axleho10 need a better description as a "negative hole", surface surrounding an axle base inscribed in a circle.

There is a fourth primitive, axlehol2, needed and used in designs on an axle.
It's the only file allowed, and useful, in both an axle hole, and as an axle.


We would then have a family of primitives like this:
axle.dat  "Axle"
axles.dat  "Axle Sloped"
axleend.dat  "Axle End Surface"
axlehol8.dat  "Axle Perimeter"
axlehol9.dat  "Axle Inner Edges"
axleho10.dat  "Axle Base Surface"
axlecap.dat  "Axle Endcap"
axlecaph.dat  "Axle Endcap with Hole 4D"
axlecaph2.dat  "Axle Endcap with Hole 5D"

axlebeam.dat  "Technic Axle Truncated to Fit Technic Beam End Surface"
axlesphe.dat  "Technic Axle Truncated to Fit Ball Joint"

Should the last 2 also loose the word Technic, or should they all have Technic as the first word in their descriptions?
I have not edited the descriptions of the other prims, only the three I think we should change.

RE: Rename some axlehol primitives - Willy Tschager - 2024-01-23

As noone has spoken up we should go ahead an do it. Orion? Last word is yours.

w.

RE: Rename some axlehol primitives - Orion Pobursky - 2024-01-23

(2024-01-23, 21:51)Willy Tschager Wrote: As noone has spoken up we should go ahead an do it. Orion? Last word is yours.

w.

I'm fine with this plan.