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Inverted Plate or Tile - Orion Pobursky - 2022-06-27
Relevant parts:
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/83496.dat
http://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-part-lookup.html?folder=parts&partid=11203
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-part-lookup.html?folder=parts&partid=35459
There's inconsistency in the library between plate or tile on the description of these parts. Our general rule would say use "Plate" since the studs are up. Everyone else, including LEGO, calls these Tiles.
In this case think we should use Tile as it more aligns with usage and the community.
RE: Inverted Plate or Tile - Travis Cobbs - 2022-06-27
(2022-06-27, 19:06)Orion Pobursky Wrote: Relevant parts:
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/83496.dat
http://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-part-lookup.html?folder=parts&partid=11203
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-part-lookup.html?folder=parts&partid=35459
There's inconsistency in the library between plate or tile on the description of these parts. Our general rule would say use "Plate" since the studs are up. Everyone else, including LEGO, calls these Tiles.
In this case think we should use Tile as it more aligns with usage and the community.
I totally agree, not just because it aligns with usage and community, but because it correctly describes what they are. "Inverted plate" doesn't even make any logical sense. An actual inverted plate (in a model) would be a plate that happens to be placed upside down. As a part, it is an oxymoron.
RE: Inverted Plate or Tile - N. W. Perry - 2022-06-27
(2022-06-27, 19:06)Orion Pobursky Wrote: Relevant parts:
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/83496.dat
http://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-part-lookup.html?folder=parts&partid=11203
https://www.ldraw.org/parts/official-part-lookup.html?folder=parts&partid=35459
There's inconsistency in the library between plate or tile on the description of these parts. Our general rule would say use "Plate" since the studs are up. Everyone else, including LEGO, calls these Tiles.
In this case think we should use Tile as it more aligns with usage and the community.
Yep, these are Tiles for sure. (Thus they are also all Plates, but we can be more specific…)
The defining characteristic of a Tile is that studs are absent where we'd otherwise expect them to be. In this case, what's absent are the anti-studs, so that's what makes them Inverted.
RE: Inverted Plate or Tile - Gerald Lasser - 2022-06-28
I forgot to hit "Post" yesterday, so here is my take
In my opinion "Tile" is a better name for those parts, due to the fact that one main side being absolutely flat.
For the "inverted Plate" I share the view of N.W. Perry
RE: Inverted Plate or Tile - Philippe Hurbain - 2022-06-28
(2022-06-28, 7:26)Gerald Lasser Wrote: I forgot to hit "Post" yesterday, so here is my take
In my opinion "Tile" is a better name for those parts, due to the fact that one main side being absolutely flat.
For the "inverted Plate" I share the view of N.W. Perry
I see them as inverted tiles, this is clearly their use (they "tile" bottom surface, and bottom implies inverted)
RE: Inverted Plate or Tile - N. W. Perry - 2022-06-28
(2022-06-28, 7:26)Gerald Lasser Wrote: For the "inverted Plate" I share the view of N.W. Perry
And my view on that is essentially the same as Travis'. I never really thought about it, but while "inverted" makes sense for slopes and bows where there's a shape that can be reflected about a horizontal axis, I can't picture how that would be for a simple plate. "Plate" only connotes the thickness of a part, not anything about its shape.
RE: Inverted Plate or Tile - Orion Pobursky - 2022-06-28
I think we have consensus but I'll leave this open to dissenting opinions until this evening my time (Pacific Daylight).
RE: Inverted Plate or Tile - Max Murtazin - 2022-06-28
It is for sure an inverted tile. Tiles have connectivity on only one side, plates have on both. Inverting plate won't really make anything new, it still would have studs on one side and stud sockets on the other
RE: Inverted Plate or Tile - Jaco van der Molen - 2022-09-16
(2022-06-28, 15:03)Orion Pobursky Wrote: I think we have consensus but I'll leave this open to dissenting opinions until this evening my time (Pacific Daylight).
I see part 11203 is still called a plate? Didn't this make the last update?
Could you fasttrack this to Tile?
Part 35459 is a tile as is 83496
RE: Inverted Plate or Tile - Orion Pobursky - 2022-09-16
11203 didn't make it off the tracker because some issues with the subfile were corrected making it ineligible for fast track review.
RE: Inverted Plate or Tile - Jaco van der Molen - 2022-09-16
(2022-09-16, 13:04)Orion Pobursky Wrote: 11203 didn't make it off the tracker because some issues with the subfile were corrected making it ineligible for fast track review.
OK, np. Maybe next update? ;-)