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Sticker aliases for same sheet with different SKUs - Chris Dee - 2021-07-28
It seems more common now that different SKU numbers are used for sticker sheets in US sets vs. RoW sets.
For example, these two appear equivalent:
134071A / 24744 / 6142623 at Bricklink: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=75870stk01
140413A / 24743 / 6142622 at Brickowl: https://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-sticker-sheet-for-set-75870-24743-24744
Should we create aliases for all 23 stickers 6142623a => 6142622a, etc., or is this overkill? How else might a user know that the stickers for 6142623 already exist in the library as 6142622?
We have done this for older stickers where the design appears on multiple sheets, e.g. 003437b.dat => 003340a.dat.
RE: Sticker aliases for same sheet with different SKUs - Gerald Lasser - 2021-07-28
(2021-07-28, 7:59)Chris Dee Wrote: It seems more common now that different SKU numbers are used for sticker sheets in US sets vs. RoW sets.
For example, these two appear equivalent:
134071A / 24744 / 6142623 at Bricklink: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=75870stk01
140413A / 24743 / 6142622 at Brickowl: https://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-sticker-sheet-for-set-75870-24743-24744
Should we create aliases for all 23 stickers 6142623a => 6142622a, etc., or is this overkill? How else might a user know that the stickers for 6142623 already exist in the library as 6142622?
We have done this for older stickers where the design appears on multiple sheets, e.g. 003437b.dat => 003340a.dat.
isn't it so that one of them is printed on a transparent sheet?
Like those:
Transparent: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=60098stk01a&idColor=0#T=C&C=0
Solid Colour: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=60098stk01b&idColor=0#T=C&C=0
But I can't make out a difference between those that Chris posted.
RE: Sticker aliases for same sheet with different SKUs - Willy Tschager - 2021-07-29
(2021-07-28, 7:59)Chris Dee Wrote: Should we create aliases for all 23 stickers 6142623a => 6142622a, etc., or is this overkill? How else might a user know that the stickers for 6142623 already exist in the library as 6142622?
Yes. To say it in Mandalorian style: This is the way.
As I fell in this number trap I think it is vital.
w.
RE: Sticker aliases for same sheet with different SKUs - Magnus Forsberg - 2021-07-30
(2021-07-28, 7:59)Chris Dee Wrote: Should we create aliases for all 23 stickers 6142623a => 6142622a, etc., or is this overkill? How else might a user know that the stickers for 6142623 already exist in the library as 6142622?
Here is another example.
International Version - (27091/6155286) https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=42055stk01a
North American Version - (27092/6181834) https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=42055stk01b
IMO it is time to change strategy.
If the setnumber, design and usage is the same, a second SKU number should be allowed as a keyword.
RE: Sticker aliases for same sheet with different SKUs - Gerald Lasser - 2021-07-30
(2021-07-30, 7:35)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: Here is another example.
International Version - (27091/6155286) https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=42055stk01a
North American Version - (27092/6181834) https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=42055stk01b
IMO it is time to change strategy.
If the setnumber, design and usage is the same, a second SKU number should be allowed as a keyword.
That would have been my suggestion as well, use the second number as keyword.
How shall we do it with transparent versions? Like for some of the train stickers?
RE: Sticker aliases for same sheet with different SKUs - Chris Dee - 2021-08-01
(2021-07-30, 21:12)Gerald Lasser Wrote: That would have been my suggestion as well, use the second number as keyword.
How shall we do it with transparent versions? Like for some of the train stickers?
I think transparent vs. opaque sticker versions should be separate part files, maybe with the patterned section subparted.
I'm not a fan of the !KEYWORDS solution as it does not really help users searching the library by sticker sheet 'part' number. Do any of the authoring tools even provide a KEYWORDS search facility?
RE: Sticker aliases for same sheet with different SKUs - Magnus Forsberg - 2021-08-01
(2021-08-01, 5:15)Chris Dee Wrote: Do any of the authoring tools even provide a KEYWORDS search facility?
Yes.
I added the alternate number as a keyword in these 4 stickers.
RE: Sticker aliases for same sheet with different SKUs - Willy Tschager - 2021-09-22
(2021-07-28, 7:59)Chris Dee Wrote: It seems more common now that different SKU numbers are used for sticker sheets in US sets vs. RoW sets.
For example, these two appear equivalent:
134071A / 24744 / 6142623 at Bricklink: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=75870stk01
140413A / 24743 / 6142622 at Brickowl: https://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-sticker-sheet-for-set-75870-24743-24744
Should we create aliases for all 23 stickers 6142623a => 6142622a, etc., or is this overkill? How else might a user know that the stickers for 6142623 already exist in the library as 6142622?
We have done this for older stickers where the design appears on multiple sheets, e.g. 003437b.dat => 003340a.dat.
Today I came across this: https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/6124787b.dat
which comes in an international and north american version:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=71200stk01a
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=71200stk01b
I still believe that is vital to have an ALIAS for these stickers.
w.
RE: Sticker aliases for same sheet with different SKUs - Max Martin Richter - 2021-09-22
(2021-09-22, 7:16)Willy Tschager Wrote: Today I came across this: https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/6124787b.dat
which comes in an international and north american version:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=71200stk01a
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=71200stk01b
I still believe that is vital to have an ALIAS for these stickers.
w.
In my eyes an alias would be fine. As we do it with identical parts produced in different moulding units (transparent/solid colour), we can adapt this to the stickers.