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Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - Willy Tschager - 2021-05-12

Guys,

as you might have noticed a new script has been added to the PT links a while ago, listing the "Weekly New Parts":

Beside the new parts it gives you a good overview of the "Oldtimers", parts that are in review hell for ages because of some issues - mostly abandoned by their authors. I started reviewing and fixing some of them a long time ago and would appreciate if you could have a look and get them into an update:

https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/89918.dat
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/43936.dat
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/43750.dat
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/6088.dat
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/48492.dat
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/11467.dat
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/3443ac01.dat
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/30361dps6.dat
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/30361dps7.dat
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/30361dps8.dat

Thanks,

w.


RE: Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - Bertrand Lequy - 2021-05-13

I noticed this new feature and I like it already.

Is your message a go for actual part authors to clean up old abandoned files ?


RE: Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - Magnus Forsberg - 2021-05-13

(2021-05-13, 5:53)Bertrand Lequy Wrote: I noticed this new feature and I like it already.

Is your message a go for actual part authors to clean up old abandoned files ?

It is both a good opportunity to study someone else's work and learn, but also an opportunity to step on someone else's toes. Tread gently.

The rule is that a uncorrected Hold-voted file is free to correct after 3 month. If there's a review/comment under a Novote you should be more careful. The author might be busy with other things, like life itself.

I prefer to use the Hold-vote when I'm reviewing, to avoid files ending up in an abandoned state.


RE: Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - Bertrand Lequy - 2021-05-13

(2021-05-13, 6:53)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: It is both a good opportunity to study someone else's work and learn, but also an opportunity to step on someone else's toes. Tread gently.

The rule is that a uncorrected Hold-voted file is free to correct after 3 month. If there's a review/comment under a Novote you should be more careful. The author might be busy with other things, like life itself.

I prefer to use the Hold-vote when I'm reviewing, to avoid files ending up in an abandoned state.

No problem Magnus, I was aware of the "do not step on someone else toe" I was just asking, for myself, and other part author that could be interrested in this.

If I decided to do something it would be with old part, not part from this month ( like the hold you gave me and that I don't solve for now)


RE: Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - Magnus Forsberg - 2021-05-13

I find uploading a file, and then not acting on a review, regardless of Novote or Hold, is disrespectful of the reviewer.
I'm thinking: - "Why should I review your file if you ignore my review?"
If I upload a file, I want someone to review it. And then I'm expected to react.
But, some might need more time than others, and I have to accept and respect that.

Edit,
Just to be clear, I'm not talking about you and your files Bertrand, I'm talking in general terms.


RE: Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - Willy Tschager - 2021-05-13

(2021-05-13, 5:53)Bertrand Lequy Wrote: Is your message a go for actual part authors to clean up old abandoned files ?

That's a yes. We get rid off files stuck in review hell and as a side effect you'll learn a lot about part authoring diving deep into others work. It can however be overwelming at first sight, when you have to scroll a long list of reviews just to figure out what's really wrong with that part.

w.


RE: Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - N. W. Perry - 2021-05-16

(2021-05-13, 7:40)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: I find uploading a file, and then not acting on a review, regardless of Novote or Hold, is disrespectful of the reviewer.
I'm thinking: - "Why should I review your file if you ignore my review?"
If I upload a file, I want someone to review it. And then I'm expected to react.
But, some might need more time than others, and I have to accept and respect that.

Edit,
Just to be clear, I'm not talking about you and your files Bertrand, I'm talking in general terms.

For my part, of course disrespect is never the intent—but if I don't immediately revise a part after a review (particularly a novote), it's usually just pending the input of more reviewers, so that all issues can be fixed at once instead of making multiple revisions. (I'll often leave a comment though, just to say that the review is noted and will be incorporated in the next version, whenever one is required.)

But, in any case I was inspired by this thread to finish out my one outstanding hold-voted file. And I have a few others that have stalled, but those are waiting on input from other reviewers as far as I can tell.


RE: Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - Willy Tschager - 2021-05-16

(2021-05-16, 13:32)N. W. Perry Wrote: For my part, of course disrespect is never the intent—but if I don't immediately revise a part after a review (particularly a novote), it's usually just pending the input of more reviewers, so that all issues can be fixed at once instead of making multiple revisions.

Be asured that a part on HOLD won't get any input from other reviewers. There are so many parts with no votes on the PT that noone will waste time an a part with flaws.

w.


RE: Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - N. W. Perry - 2021-05-17

(2021-05-16, 20:04)Willy Tschager Wrote: Be asured that a part on HOLD won't get any input from other reviewers. There are so many parts with no votes on the PT that noone will waste time an a part with flaws.

w.

A hold, perhaps. But a novote can move forward, certainly, as not all issues warrant a hold. (I remember there being a big long list with guidance on when to hold and when to merely suggest.) In fact, many novotes are just comments with no specified action to be taken.


RE: Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - Willy Tschager - 2021-05-25

Please don't forget to have a look at the parts in the list.

w.


RE: Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - Bertrand Lequy - 2021-05-25

(2021-05-25, 18:54)Willy Tschager Wrote: Please don't forget to have a look at the parts in the list.

w.

For now, I'm having a look at my parts in the list Confused


RE: Weekly new parts and the "Oldtimers" - Willy Tschager - 2021-06-06

The first one is done. Carry on for the rest!

w.