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Standard: Official Model Repository (OMR) Filenames and Headers - Willy Tschager - 2011-08-01
Hi folks,
before the OMR starts to grow I'd like to discuss this comment by Orion:
http://forums.ldraw.org/showthread.php?tid=78&pid=78#pid78
reading through the specs and I also think they need to rewritten. Especially the "Filenames for the Official Model Repository files are restricted to the MS-DOS compatible 8.3 name length" is ridiculous.
Thoughts?
w.
Re: Standard: Official Model Repository (OMR) Filenames and Headers - Roland Melkert - 2011-08-01
I agree taking the current spec to heart takes a lot of fun out of drawing and replaces it with annoyances, It's to restrictive.
On the other hand I do understand where it's coming from, uniform naming etc opens the door for batch processing and such.
Maybe it just needs a minor 'modernization', or instead of naming the models 'weird' and human unfriendly introduce some specialized model file meta's.
Re: Standard: Official Model Repository (OMR) Filenames and Headers - Willy Tschager - 2011-08-02
Roland,
it would be ideal if you could take this to the LSC, which always came up with something reasonable beside being the place where new metas are standardized. I also agree with you that making a model should be a light as possible and ruled as little as possible.
w.
Re: Standard: Official Model Repository (OMR) Filenames and Headers - Michael Heidemann - 2011-08-02
The OMR had as main idea the possibility of making the same instructions as the original. So there is a need for to be restrictive in this case.
If you do not have fun in building according the specs. - build it your way. But then it is not conform. Thats all.
Re: Standard: Official Model Repository (OMR) Filenames and Headers - Orion Pobursky - 2011-08-03
Hmm, I disagree with the idea of being able to recreate the official building instructions. I think this would needlessly complicate the file. What I do want is a uniform hierarchy of filenaming and MPD files mentioned in the spec.
P.S. Moving this topic out of general and into parts standards.
Re: Standard: Official Model Repository (OMR) Filenames and Headers - Jude Parrill - 2011-08-04
SUGGESTION: Create a standard to put sythesized (e.g. LSynthed) parts into seperate subfiles.
My reasoning is thus: Creating synthesized parts is often difficult and typically involves a fair amount of trial and error as one attempts to mimic the shape shown in the instructions as closely as possible. Doing this in a subfile makes it much easier because you can see the whole part easily, and can manipulate/change/delete parts easily and effortlessly. However, attempting to do this in large file can oftentimes be difficult due to them often being placed in hard to reach/hard to see areas.
Additionally, in instruction manuals (as well as real life), your typical synthesized part (hose, chain, rope, etc...) is treated as a single part. However, as we all know, synthesized parts are often made up of dozens and possibly even hundreds of smaller parts. By putting all these parts into a subfile, we can then treat the synthesized part as a single part in the main file.
As for naming conventions, I suggest using something like "-sX" where X is nth synthesized part for the model.
Some examples:
m-1-s1.dat -- First synthesized piece for first model
m-1-s2.dat -- Second sythesized piece for first model
m-1a-s1.dat -- First synthesized piece for first submodel of the first model.
m-1ab-s1.dat -- First synthesized piece for for second submodel of first submodel of the first model.
mf-1-s1 -- First synthesized piece for the first minifig.
Re: Standard: Official Model Repository (OMR) Filenames and Headers - Alban Nanty - 2011-08-04
Why not using the naming convention used by peeron and Bricklink which is: SSSS-I where SSSS is the set number and I is an index when several sets have the same number?
Using the release year, specially on 2 digit (TLC may soon have 100 years), can be risky, for example for promotional set.