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Website Theming Work - Orion Pobursky - 2018-12-11

Work has begun on changing the main site theme. Right now I'm focusing on cleaning up and consolidating the code. Later I will rearrange the page elements. The end goal is to have a unified look across all LDraw websites. The main site is first since its the easiest to change. The forum will most likely be the last since the templating engine will change with MyBB 1.9 and I don't really want to duplicate effort.

If you are a website expert or otherwise, I want to hear from you. Now is the time to make suggestions, desires, ideas known. If possible, show me an example of what you mean. If there's a site you really like, let me know and I can try to incorporate the elements of the design that work well.

The current working design is here:
http://www.ldraw.org/test-home.html
Article template is here:
http://www.ldraw.org/hidden-content/testpad.html

Note: I'm focusing on layout right now, styling and interactivity will come later.


RE: Website Theming Work - Willy Tschager - 2018-12-12

This looks really clean, love it.

w.


RE: Website Theming Work - Philippe Hurbain - 2018-12-12

Yes, Zen style!


RE: Website Theming Work - Johann Eisner - 2018-12-12

(2018-12-11, 18:44)Orion Pobursky Wrote: Work has begun on changing the main site theme. Right now I'm focusing on cleaning up and consolidating the code. Later I will rearrange the page elements. The end goal is to have a unified look across all LDraw websites. The main site is first since its the easiest to change. The forum will most likely be the last since the templating engine will change with MyBB 1.9 and I don't really want to duplicate effort.

If you are a website expert or otherwise, I want to hear from you. Now is the time to make suggestions, desires, ideas known. If possible, show me an example of what you mean. If there's a site you really like, let me know and I can try to incorporate the elements of the design that work well.

The current working design is here:
http://www.ldraw.org/test-home.html
Article template is here:
http://www.ldraw.org/hidden-content/testpad.html

Note: I'm focusing on layout right now, styling and interactivity will come later.

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RE: Website Theming Work - Finegold - 2018-12-12

The new design is severely broken on iPad. The nav bar at the top extends beyond the width of the screen and does not scroll. The latest forum posts section is extremely narrow which causes text to wrap way down the page far beyond the length of any other content. The main sections like news and getting started are not clearly defined like they used to be with proper headings. Beyond that I think the whole thing just looks really ugly and misaligned. The old design was very clean and fit neatly in a browser window of any size. There's no reason to change it.

Why does every website cave into pressure to constantly update the layout? When big companies do it, they often poll the users, find out everybody hates it, obviously, and do it anyway. It's usually just a trick to sneak in more ads.

If you guys have nothing better to do, clean up the code WITHOUT changing the layout that we're all already used to. Freshen it up if you must, change images, do some recentering. This is a technical site, not a trendy fashion store.


RE: Website Theming Work - Magnus Forsberg - 2018-12-12

I agree on both comment made so far.
  • It looks very clean, and white. May be even too white. I like the old look of the blue shaded header ribbon better. But the dropdown menues are easier to use.
  • The new layout doesn't work on smaller screens, like on my phone. The last Help "button" is even offscreen and impossible to use.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.


RE: Website Theming Work - Orion Pobursky - 2018-12-12

(2018-12-12, 14:31)Finegold Wrote: The new design is severely broken on iPad. The nav bar at the top extends beyond the width of the screen and does not scroll. The latest forum posts section is extremely narrow which causes text to wrap way down the page far beyond the length of any other content. The main sections like news and getting started are not clearly defined like they used to be with proper headings. Beyond that I think the whole thing just looks really ugly and misaligned. The old design was very clean and fit neatly in a browser window of any size. There's no reason to change it.

Why does every website cave into pressure to constantly update the layout? When big companies do it, they often poll the users, find out everybody hates it, obviously, and do it anyway. It's usually just a trick to sneak in more ads.

If you guys have nothing better to do, clean up the code WITHOUT changing the layout that we're all already used to. Freshen it up if you must, change images, do some recentering. This is a technical site, not a trendy fashion store.

A few points:
- As I stated, this is a work in progress. There is much to do. The current system is confusing and not very modification friendly. The code base needs to change and this is the first step.
- I am well aware of the limitations on mobile. This is part of the reason I started this process, to fix the problem. For example, if you noticed, the menu system on both the new and old designs is broken and does not respond to touch.
- I don't really appreciate the tone of your post. I don't get paid to work on this website. If fact, I spend my own money to help maintain it. Your criticism of constant change is unfounded as we have quite literally only changed our design 3 times in the last 15 years.


RE: Website Theming Work - Orion Pobursky - 2018-12-12

(2018-12-12, 16:22)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: I agree on both comment made so far.
  • It looks very clean, and white. May be even too white. I like the old look of the blue shaded header ribbon better. But the dropdown menues are easier to use.
  • The new layout doesn't work on smaller screens, like on my phone. The last Help "button" is even offscreen and impossible to use.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I'm focusing on changing the back end code while also mimicking the current layout as closely as possible. The epic whiteness will definitely change when I get to styling.


RE: Website Theming Work - Roland Melkert - 2018-12-12

(2018-12-11, 18:44)Orion Pobursky Wrote: The current working design is here:
http://www.ldraw.org/test-home.html

It looks nice but at first I thought it was broken cause my plugins where blocking the third party content.  Smile

Please make those temporary, I always liked LDraw being one of the few 'standalone' sites.


RE: Website Theming Work - Orion Pobursky - 2018-12-12

(2018-12-12, 19:23)Roland Melkert Wrote:
(2018-12-11, 18:44)Orion Pobursky Wrote: The current working design is here:
http://www.ldraw.org/test-home.html

It looks nice but at first I thought it was broken cause my plugins where blocking the third party content.  Smile

Please make those temporary, I always liked LDraw being one of the few 'standalone' sites.

It will be standalone. I'm using the CDN versions of the CSS/JS framework for now. This will shorty change to a site specific version located on the server.