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RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2016-09-15

(2016-09-14, 22:08)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: Sven,

Have you read this article?   The curious case of LEGO colours

Finding the "correct" colour isn't allways that easy, and maybe it sometimes isn't that important to have the correct shade of grey...
But I agree. We seem to be missing some important, common colours.

Hi Magnus,

thank you for the link to the very good article. I also agree, that it is not always important to have the exact right color. I just want to come to an official mapping from the used LEGO colors to ldraw colors. So that I'm able to render the parts. It's also fine if several LEGO colors share the same Ldraw color. 

So Long 

Sven


RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2016-09-15

(2016-09-15, 0:56)Willy Tschager Wrote:
(2016-09-14, 18:15)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: LEGO color 179 (Silver Flip Flop) -> Ldraw 135 (Pearl Light Grey)

LEGO color 296 (Cool Silver) -> new ID, new RGB and new Ldraw name 
or
LEGO color 296 (Cool Silver) -> Ldraw 135 (Pearl Light Grey)

I'm more inclined to replace 135 with LEGO color 296 (Cool Silver) but since it has been replace by LEGO color ID 131 Silver and LEGO color ID 315 Silver metallic
we should pack 135 with 296+131+315.

w.


If I understand you right, you suggest to do it like this:

LEGO color 296 (Cool Silver) -> Ldraw 135 (Pearl Light Grey)
LEGO color 131(Silver) -> Ldraw 135 (Pearl Light Grey)
LEGO color 315(Silver Metallic) -> Ldraw 135 (Pearl Light Grey)

Does 315 Silver Metallic needs a different finish for rendering, than the other ones? Maybe some chrome like finish, or do they look similar?
If they are all almost the same, I'm fine with it.

So Long

Sven


RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Philippe Hurbain - 2016-09-15

If you look at parts images here http://brickset.com/colours/family-Metal you see that there is probably more color discrepancy between parts that are supposed to be the same color than between these three different color bins. So I'm OK to map them to the same LDraw color, and use RGB of metallic silver  (current color) - though "RGB" here means little!!!


RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Max Martin Richter - 2016-09-15

(2016-09-14, 19:58)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote:
(2016-09-14, 18:45)Max Martin Richter Wrote: Sorry for popping into this discussion, but a colour for Rubber Green also missing.

/Max

Hi Max,

do you have a clue or something about lego id or name? Maybe a part where it is used would help to identify the LEGO color. If we could identify it, I'll add it to the list.

So Long

Sven

I had an email correspondence with Philo  couple of months ago, but somehow we never found a result in this question.
Rubber green is used in the CodePilot of Set 8479 and in the Mindstorms RCX controller...

/Max


RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2016-09-16

(2016-09-15, 11:54)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: If you look at parts images here http://brickset.com/colours/family-Metal you see that there is probably more color discrepancy between parts that are supposed to be the same color than between these three different color bins. So I'm OK to map them to the same LDraw color, and use RGB of metallic silver  (current color) - though "RGB" here means little!!!

Good overview. From my point of view our three canditates look very similar. Because these are photos, the lighting conditions could be different when the photos where taken.
The other ones from the link are easier to distinguish.

So Long

Sven


RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2016-09-16

Nailed! let's move on to the next color:

ID: 302 -> Transparent Light Blue with Glitter 2%

(Please reply to the first post otherwise we will get lost in the thread).

w.


RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2016-09-16

(2016-09-16, 10:07)Willy Tschager Wrote: Nailed! let's move on to the next color:

ID: 302 -> Transparent Light Blue with Glitter 2%

(Please reply to the first post otherwise we will get lost in the thread).

w.

Cool. Ok I'll also update my first post to document our results. I think it will be more readable this way.

So Long

Sven


RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2016-09-16

Let's hunt the next one:

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Dragon's Fire


My own Data
Lego ID: 302
Lego Name: PCTR LI.BLUE W/G
MY guessed name: Transparent Light Blue with Glitter 2%

http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html
No match found

http://wiki.ldraw.org/index.php?title=User:Owen_Burgoyne/LDraw_Colour_Comparison_Chart
No match found

http://www.peeron.com/inv/colors
No match found

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=868566
No match found

http://rebrickable.com/colors
Lego ID: 1014
Ldraw ID: na
Bricklink ID: 162
Lego Name: PCTR LI.BLUE W/G
Rebrickable Name: Glitter Trans-Light Blue
RGB: #68BCC5

http://swooshable.com/parts/colors
Lego ID: 302
Ldraw ID: na
Bricklink ID: 162
Lego name: Transparent Light Blue with Glitter
RGB: #00BAD2

Once again, not a lot of information available. The Name and and the Lego ID is fine I think. Unfortunately we've two different RGB Values from Rebrickable and Swooshable.
Because I didn't found any mapping I think it's a not yet covered color in ldraw. Does someone has more information on that?

So Long

Sven


RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2016-09-18

The color name should be in sync with the rest of glitter. Therefore:

302 - Glitter_Trans_Light_Blue

furthermore it would be reasonable to use the same RGB as for Trans_Light_Blue also counting in that there is not a commune value out there.

w.


RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2016-09-19

Yes this makes sense. Using the same RGB as Trans_light_blue is also fine, because it is the same with the other glitter colors. Only the Edge value differs.
Because 302 seems to be free as Ldraw id, should we simply use it?

So Long

Sven