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Pirates - Stan Isachenko - 2014-01-12

I will try make better renders later
[Image: 6279_-_skull_island_2.jpg]

Re: Pirates - Michael Horvath - 2014-01-12

It looks more like a grainy photograph than a POV-Ray render. Did you by mistake save it as JPEG first before saving it as PNG?

Re: Pirates - Stan Isachenko - 2014-01-12

No. Thats brickshelf probem. It adds bakground. I will later add better version.

Re: Pirates - Stan Isachenko - 2014-01-13

I can upload MPD, but it is not mine, so if someone ask i will.
[Image: 6270.jpg]

Re: Pirates - Stan Isachenko - 2014-01-14

[Image: 1713_-_shipwrecked_pirate_2.jpg]
This is first Lego set i got in my life))

Re: Pirates - Philippe Hurbain - 2014-01-14

Nice to see a good use of newly created head pattern Wink

Re: Pirates - Stan Isachenko - 2014-01-14

I want to create this one long time ago, but the was not right pattern for head) So i got pattern made by you, and ender it)

Re: Pirates - Stan Isachenko - 2014-01-14

[Image: 6232_-_skeleton_crew.jpg]

Re: Pirates - Willy Tschager - 2014-01-30

Added to AIOI. Thx for sharing!

w.

6285 - Black Seas Barracuda - Philippe Hurbain - 2020-11-02

[Image: 6285.png]
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Rendered with Studio 2.0


Other images...
[Image: 6285_-_black_seas_barracuda_2.png]
[Image: 6285_-_black_seas_barracuda_3.png]

RE: 6285 - Black Seas Barracuda - Orion Pobursky - 2020-11-02

Wow. What's next Pirates of Barracuda Bay? Unfortunately almost every pattern in that set is new.

RE: 6285 - Black Seas Barracuda - Philippe Hurbain - 2020-11-02

(2020-11-02, 13:16)Orion Pobursky Wrote: Wow. What's next Pirates of Barracuda Bay? Unfortunately almost every pattern in that set is new.
Actually it was rather a test of the new sails...

RE: 6285 - Black Seas Barracuda - Orion Pobursky - 2020-11-02

(2020-11-02, 15:39)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: Actually it was rather a test of the new sails...

It still looks amazing.

RE: 6285 - Black Seas Barracuda - N. W. Perry - 2020-11-02

(2020-11-02, 10:56)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: [size=small][font=Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif][size=small][font=Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif][size=small][font=Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif][size=small][font=Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif][size=small][font=Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif][size=small][font=Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif]Known errors: None (I needed to slant front mast rigging, I guess that IRL flexibility allows that?)[/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size]

The part is pretty bendy in real life, yes. (This was one of the last big sets I get prior to my Dark Age…)

Now the question is, did you use the firing or non-firing cannons for this model?  Big Grin

RE: 6285 - Black Seas Barracuda - Franklin W. Cain - 2020-11-03

Philippe, 

Beautiful work!  ^_^  

Franklin

RE: 6285 - Black Seas Barracuda - Takeshi Takahashi - 2020-11-03

Wow!! Very impressive!!

RE: 6285 - Black Seas Barracuda - Philippe Hurbain - 2020-11-03

(2020-11-02, 17:58)N. W. Perry Wrote: Now the question is, did you use the firing or non-firing cannons for this model?  Big Grin
It's supposed to be the firing version... even though LDraw model is missing (unseen) spring  Big Grin

RE: 6285 - Black Seas Barracuda - Philippe Hurbain - 2020-11-04

Updated... A stowaway pirate managed to sneak in...

RE: 6285 - Black Seas Barracuda - Philippe Hurbain - 2020-11-06

(2020-11-04, 18:16)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: Updated... A stowaway pirate managed to sneak in...
Updated again:
- Was not completely OMR compliant
- Used the wrong pattern for captain's bicorne.

6286 - Skull's Eye Schooner - Philippe Hurbain - 2020-11-10

[Image: 6286.png]
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Rendered with Studio 2.0

[Image: 6286_-_skull_s_eye_schooner_2.png]

6257 - Castaway's Raft - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-02-26

6257 Castaway's Raft (1989)


.mpd   6257 - Castaway's Raft.mpd (Size: 6.29 KB / Downloads: 12)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: none

6260 - Shipwreck Island - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-02-28

6260 Shipwreck Island (1989)


.mpd   6260 - Shipwreck Island.mpd (Size: 8.62 KB / Downloads: 11)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: none

6265 - Sabre Island - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-03-01

6265 Sabre Island (1989)


.mpd   6265 - Sabre Island.mpd (Size: 10.21 KB / Downloads: 11)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: none

6270 - Forbidden Island - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-03-02

6270 Forbidden Island (1989)

Previously submitted the image by Stan, but CC-BY licensed MPD file is not available and rebuilt from scratch.
Thanks Magnus for creating 2528ap31


.mpd   6270 - Forbidden Island.mpd (Size: 15.7 KB / Downloads: 14)
   

Currently not OMR compliant (unofficial part not inlined)
Missing items: none

6274 - Caribbean Clipper - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-03-06

6274 Caribbean Clipper (1989)
Thanks Philo for creating the sails!!


.mpd   6274 - Caribbean Clipper.mpd (Size: 22.18 KB / Downloads: 13)
   

Currently not OMR compliant (unofficial part not inlined)
Missing items: Flexible ropes

6276 - Eldorado Fortress - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-03-08

6276 Eldorado Fortress (1989)
Pirates sets in the launch year 1989 have been complete, thanks Alex and Max for creating the baseplate!!


.mpd   6276 - Eldorado Fortress.mpd (Size: 40.6 KB / Downloads: 15)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: Flexible rope

EDIT 2022-08-21: Got OMR compliant with Parts Update 2022-04

6234 - Renegade's Raft - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-06-09

6234 Renegade's Raft (1991)


.mpd   6234 - Renegade's Raft.mpd (Size: 3.27 KB / Downloads: 7)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: none

6259 - Broadside's Brig - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-06-10

6259 Broadside's Brig (1991)


.mpd   6259 - Broadside's Brig.mpd (Size: 6.01 KB / Downloads: 8)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: none

6267 - Lagoon Lock-Up - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-06-11

6267 Lagoon Lock-Up (1991)


.mpd   6267 - Lagoon Lock-Up.mpd (Size: 16.31 KB / Downloads: 8)
   

Currently not OMR compliant (Unofficial part not inlined)
Missing items: none

EDIT 2022-10-04: Added the sail, thanks Philo
https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-26391.html

6273 - Rock Island Refuge - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-06-14

6273 Rock Island Refuge (1991)

The largest set of Pirates 2nd wave in 1991


.mpd   6273 - Rock Island Refuge.mpd (Size: 30.05 KB / Downloads: 12)
   

Currently not OMR compliant (Unofficial part not inlined)
Missing items: Flexible rope

EDIT 2022-08-20: Got OMR compliant with 2022-04 parts update release
EDIT 2022-10-04: Added sail, thanks Philo
https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-26391.html

1481 - Pirates Desert Island - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-06-15

1481 Pirates Desert Island (1991)


.mpd   1481 - Pirates Desert Island.mpd (Size: 2.42 KB / Downloads: 5)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: none

6247 - Bounty Boat - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-08-20

6247 Bounty Boat (1992)


.mpd   6247 - Bounty Boat.mpd (Size: 4.96 KB / Downloads: 5)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: none

6258 - Smuggler's Shanty - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-08-21

6258 Smuggler's Shanty (1992)


.mpd   6258 - Smuggler_s Shanty.mpd (Size: 7.17 KB / Downloads: 5)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: none

6261 - Raft Raiders - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-08-30

6261 Raft Raiders (1992)

Waiting for the sail :-) The sail has been arrived!!


.mpd   6261 - Raft Raiders.mpd (Size: 7 KB / Downloads: 7)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: Flexible rope

6271 - Imperial Flagship - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-10-07

6271 Imperial Flagship (1992)


.mpd   6271 - Imperial Flagship.mpd (Size: 27.85 KB / Downloads: 8)
   

Currently not OMR compliant (Unofficial part not inlined)
Missing items: sailbb09/upn0026pr0001(placeholder), sailbb17/upn0027pr0001(substituted with unprinted u9499, but forming is not correct)

6277 - Imperial Trading Post - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-12-18

6277 Imperial Trading Post (1992)


.mpd   6277 - Imperial Trading Post.mpd (Size: 52.3 KB / Downloads: 13)
   

Currently not OMR compliant (Unofficial part not inlined)
Missing items: Front/rear sails of trading ship, print on u767, flexible ropes

1464/1696 - Pirate Lookout - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-12-19

1464/1696 Pirate Lookout (1992)


.mpd   1696 - Pirate Lookout.mpd (Size: 2.07 KB / Downloads: 5)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: none

1492 - Battle Cove - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-12-20

1492 Battle Cove (1992)


.mpd   1492 - Battle Cove.mpd (Size: 2.53 KB / Downloads: 5)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: none

1889 - Pirates Treasure Hold - Takeshi Takahashi - 2022-12-21

1889 Pirates Treasure Hold (1992)


.mpd   1889 - Pirates Treasure Hold.mpd (Size: 5.82 KB / Downloads: 5)
   

OMR compliant
Missing items: none

RE: 6286 - Skull's Eye Schooner - Thomas Dickerson - 2023-02-20

Has anyone tried using the Cloth Physics brush in Blender to form sails? I'm thinking it would be easy enough to export an .obj and then convert the triangles back with a little script. I'm working on a ship with similar mast structure to the Pirates of Barracuda Bay version of the BSB and noticed none of these sails are even unofficially in the parts library yet, nevermind formed.

RE: 6286 - Skull's Eye Schooner - Thomas Dickerson - 2023-03-04

(2023-02-20, 19:51)Thomas Dickerson Wrote: Has anyone tried using the Cloth Physics brush in Blender to form sails? I'm thinking it would be easy enough to export an .obj and then convert the triangles back with a little script. I'm working on a ship with similar mast structure to the Pirates of Barracuda Bay version of the BSB and noticed none of these sails are even unofficially in the parts library yet, nevermind formed.

Okay, so follow-up info on anyone interested in doing this after me:

Blender Cloth Physics modifier in conjunction with animated armatures (to pull the cloth) and collision (to form around the mast itself) works pretty well.
The most important trick is using the linear bending model, instead of the angular bending model.
If you accidentally use the angular bending model, you will find your sails uncontrollably wrinkly no matter how stiff you try to make them.
Linear bending seems to behave more like a nice sheet of paper, which is also similar to the sail fabric Lego uses.

Another useful tip is to use the circle selection tool to set up pretty large vertex groups around the holes (the vertices should be in both your armature group and your pinning group for the cloth simulation), which will hold the corners taut and prevent weird folds as you're placing the sail. Once you have the sail in place, you can animate a Vertex Weight Modifier in conjunction with a mask group to release all of the vertices except the ones directly surrounding the hole, to allow it to take on a natural shape once placed (basically simulating releasing your fingers from the corners).

My final tip is to only model the sail as a single layer of polygons and use the Solidify modifier stacked after the Cloth modifier to actually create the 3D extruded structure *after* the simulation runs.

Here's my WIP on the afore-mentioned rigging:
   

RE: 6286 - Skull's Eye Schooner - Philippe Hurbain - 2023-03-04

If only I was more Blender-fluent... I tried several solutions to shape fabrics, but it's always very time consuming. I'd be curious so see the mesh of one of your sails, can you share it?

RE: 6286 - Skull's Eye Schooner - Thomas Dickerson - 2023-03-04

(2023-03-04, 20:05)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: If only I was more Blender-fluent... I tried several solutions to shape fabrics, but it's always very time consuming. I'd be curious so see the mesh of one of your sails, can you share it?

This has been a learning experience for me for sure - I've used Blender for rendering before, but almost never for mesh editing. The weird quadrilateral sail on the back took me almost two weeks between tracing and forming. This pair of trapezoidal top sails combined only took me about 3 hours. I think the lower sails will be even a bit faster.

I need to do a little cleanup to get these in a shareable state, but I'll try and upload my whole project folder to Google Drive in the next couple days.

RE: Pirates - N. W. Perry - 2023-03-05

My takeaway from this is that what we really need on the LDraw side is less about actual cloth simulation and more about the 3D vertex modification. I wonder if there’s anything in that part of the Blender code that would be suitable for modeling dynamic flat flexible parts in an LDraw editor?

RE: Pirates - Thomas Dickerson - 2023-05-30

(2023-03-05, 14:03)N. W. Perry Wrote: My takeaway from this is that what we really need on the LDraw side is less about actual cloth simulation and more about the 3D vertex modification. I wonder if there’s anything in that part of the Blender code that would be suitable for modeling dynamic flat flexible parts in an LDraw editor?

Yes. The mesh editor is very nice and lets you switch between arbitrary polygons, triangles, and quads pretty easily. I've also exported some test parts using this plugin: https://github.com/cuddlyogre/ExportLDraw although the project setup is still a little fiddly, the maintainer is quite responsive to issues.

Anyway, I've wrapped up the (non-official-model) project I was working on and ended up modeling 3/4 of the Pirates of Barracuda Bay sails (and the two that are reused I formed in both poses). I didn't end up using the triangular sail and I'm not quite sure that the spacing between my foremast and bowsprit are the same as in PoBB, so I left it undone, but if anyone wants to pick up from my work, this Google Drive folder, contains:
  • High-resolution scans of all 4 original fabric sail shapes
  • Polygonal traces of 3 of the 4 original fabric sail shapes as .blend files
  • A sample project showing how to rig the unformed sails into formed sails.
  • Both formed and unformed exported meshes as .obj (although only the small quadrilateral sail has also been simplified and placed in a canonical orientation)

Given that I have relatively limited hobby time these days, I suspect I won't finish the work myself, but thought someone else might find this a useful resource in the future.