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RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2016-12-02 Okay: 329 - Glow_In_Dark_Trans - #F5F3D7 - Edge #B5B49F - Alpha 250 - Luminance 15 w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Magnus Forsberg - 2016-12-02 (2016-12-02, 7:46)Willy Tschager Wrote: Okay: 329 - Glow_In_Dark_Trans - #F5F3D7 - Edge #B5B49F - Alpha 250 - Luminance 15 "Glow_In_Dark_Trans" is already used as the name on CODE 294 RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2016-12-03 (2016-12-02, 21:59)Magnus Forsberg Wrote:(2016-12-02, 7:46)Willy Tschager Wrote: Okay: 329 - Glow_In_Dark_Trans - #F5F3D7 - Edge #B5B49F - Alpha 250 - Luminance 15 Copy'n'Paste error: 329 - Glow_In_Dark_White - #F5F3D7 - Edge #B5B49F - Alpha 250 - Luminance 15 w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2016-12-06 Next one ICON: DAISY, SMALL - POLISHED My own Data Lego ID: 231 Lego Name: TR. FL. YEL ORA MY guessed name: Transparent Flame Yellowish Orange http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html No match found http://wiki.ldraw.org/index.php?title=User:Owen_Burgoyne/LDraw_Colour_Comparison_Chart Lego ID: 231 Ldraw Name: na Lego Name: Tr. Flame Yellowish Orange RGB: #F2C89B http://www.peeron.com/inv/colors no match found http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=868566 Lego ID: 231 Bricklink id: na Bricklink Name: na Lego Name: Transparent Flame Yellowish Orange http://rebrickable.com/colors Lego ID: 1017 Ldraw ID: na Bricklink ID: 164 Lego Name: TR. FL. YEL ORA Rebrickable Name: Trans Flame Yellowish Orange RGB: #FCB76D http://swooshable.com/parts/colors Lego ID: 231 Ldraw ID: na Bricklink ID: na Bricklink Name: na Lego name: Transparent Flame Yellowish Orange RGB: #FCB76D Here we have again a rare color. I could only find a few pieces with that color. The good thing is, that we have a free ldraw id. I think the name should be somehow Trans_Bright_Light_Orange, because we already have "Flame Yellowish Orange" which is "Bright_Light_Orange" So Long Sven RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2016-12-13 Sorry Sven, I totally forgot about it: I'm fine with your suggestion. Please use #bd8951 for the edge. w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2016-12-15 (2016-12-13, 19:47)Willy Tschager Wrote: Sorry Sven, Hi Willy, no problem. It takes some time, but I think we're making good progress. So long Sven RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2016-12-15 Next one FIRE HELM "NO. 1000" My own Data Lego ID: 335 Lego Name: GOLD INK MY guessed name: Gold Ink http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html No match found http://wiki.ldraw.org/index.php?title=User:Owen_Burgoyne/LDraw_Colour_Comparison_Chart Lego ID: na Ldraw Name: Metallic Gold Lego Name: Gold Ink RGB: na http://www.peeron.com/inv/colors no match found http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=868566 Lego ID: 335 Bricklink id: na Bricklink Name: na Lego Name: Gold Ink http://rebrickable.com/colors Lego ID: 1006 Ldraw ID: 82 Bricklink ID: 65 Lego Name: GOLD INK Rebrickable Name: Metallic Gold RGB: #DBAC34 http://swooshable.com/parts/colors Lego ID: 335 Ldraw ID: na Bricklink ID: na Bricklink Name: na Lego name: Gold Ink RGB: #E4B863 I think here we've a small conflict to solve. The Ldraw ID 335 is already taken by "Sand_Red" which is not goldish at all. At the same time we have "Metallic Gold" which is Ldraw 82 and LEGO id 310. LEGO ID 310 is "Titanium Metallic" which is also not very goldish (http://mi-od-live-s.legocdn.com/media/bricks/5/2/4613958.jpg) Option 1: Map Lego ID 335 to Ldraw 82 Option 2: We use a new ldraw id and a new name. (I found 9 parts with this color) Option 3: Clean up the confusion in the related colors (unlikely). So Long Sven RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2016-12-19 Comparing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15240191831/ with: https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15226158525/ this looks more like chrome. We should therefore map it to 334 Chrome_Gold which would also be in sync with: LEGO color: 336 | Silver Ink => Ldraw: 383 | Metalized Silver - VALUE #6D6E5C - EDGE #333333 (TAKE NOTE THAT METALIZED SILVER SHOULD ACTUALLY USE THE LEGACY NAME: CHROME_SILVER) w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2016-12-19 Hmm. This is odd: The timeline https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15801189140 maps 335 and 336 to chrome as well as metallic with 309 and 310 on the chrome side and 298 and 299 on the metallic side. The usual inconistencIes with LEGO colors over the years. w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Magnus Forsberg - 2016-12-19 Based on the picture from Ryan H. I would say it ought to be like this: 334 should be mapped to new code 300 - Metallic_Copper 335 should be mapped to 82 - Metallic_Gold 336 should be mapped to 80 - Metallic_Silver It looks to me as a "flat" metallic paint. Not a mirrorlike chrome plated surface. I don't understand why Ryan has placed a Chrome_Gold crown and a Chrome_Silver lightsabre next to the three painted parts. Maybe to illustrate the confusion? Two different surfaces on the same code? RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2016-12-25 (2016-12-19, 16:28)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: 334 should be mapped to new code 300 - Metallic_CopperAgree, but we have to map 316 - Titanium Metallic to a different color as it clearly isn't 82 - Metallic_Gold. w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2016-12-25 I have updated the current LDConfig.ldr. I will ship it to Chris for the upcoming parts update in a few days. Colors that don't make into the current release will be added afterwards. w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2016-12-28 Have a look at the updated LDConfig.ldr file: LDConfig.ldr (Size: 27.9 KB / Downloads: 3) w. PS. Philo could you please update the visual config http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html once the update is out? RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Philippe Hurbain - 2016-12-29 (2016-12-28, 20:05)Willy Tschager Wrote: Have a look at the updated LDConfig.ldr file:Looks good to me. Yes, I'll update visual config as soon as I can find again the needed scripts and see if/how they run on my reinstalled machine... RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Steffen - 2017-01-01 please find attached the previous version. maybe that file should be made available for download at that ldraw.org documentation page? RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Chris Dee - 2017-01-01 (2016-12-29, 9:46)Philippe Hurbain Wrote:(2016-12-28, 20:05)Willy Tschager Wrote: Have a look at the updated LDConfig.ldr file:Looks good to me. Yes, I'll update visual config as soon as I can find again the needed scripts and see if/how they run on my reinstalled machine... I have updated the Colour Chart section. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Philippe Hurbain - 2017-01-03 Quote:PS. Philo could you please update the visual config http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html once the update is out? It seems I am not allowed to edit this page... The various images are here: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Philo/VisualLdConfig/Update-2016-12-28/visualldconfig.png http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Philo/VisualLdConfig/Update-2016-12-28/visualldconfigalt.png http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Philo/VisualLdConfig/Update-2016-12-28/visualldconfigw.png http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Philo/VisualLdConfig/Update-2016-12-28/visualldconfigwalt.png The mpd is here http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Philo/VisualLdConfig/Update-2016-12-28/visualldconfig.mpd and the folder itself here http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=567609 RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2017-01-03 (2017-01-03, 15:36)Philippe Hurbain Wrote:Quote:PS. Philo could you please update the visual config http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html once the update is out? Happy new year to all of you. I'm back from christmas vacation and we can start over, where we stopped last year. Are there any latest results I've to add to the initial post? So Long Sven RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Magnus Forsberg - 2017-01-03 (2017-01-03, 15:36)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: The various images are here: How come the main (16) and edge (24) colours looks wrong in your pictures? I think there might be something wrong in your script. (2017-01-03, 17:02)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: Are there any latest results I've to add to the initial post? Yes. We must find a different name for Medium_Violet. It's already used in the old file. Se also my response, and suggestion, below. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Philippe Hurbain - 2017-01-03 Quote:How come the main (16) and edge (24) colours looks wrong in your pictures? I think there might be something wrong in your script.I'll check... It's a by product of the mpd structure. Each brick position contains a brick in its own color, and a text in main color, allowing to have text in black for white background and white for black background. So "main color" brick inherits text color! I'll try to improve this... RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Philippe Hurbain - 2017-01-04 (2017-01-03, 17:57)Philippe Hurbain Wrote:Quote:How come the main (16) and edge (24) colours looks wrong in your pictures? I think there might be something wrong in your script.I'll check... It's a by product of the mpd structure. Each brick position contains a brick in its own color, and a text in main color, allowing to have text in black for white background and white for black background. So "main color" brick inherits text color! I'll try to improve this... Finally I let it as is: color 24 was not rendered correctly anyway. And 16/24 are not really colors... RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2017-01-04 (2017-01-03, 17:02)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: Happy new year to all of you. Check out the LDConfig.ldr for the mapped 334, 335, 336. w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2017-01-04 (2017-01-03, 15:36)Philippe Hurbain Wrote:Quote:PS. Philo could you please update the visual config http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html once the update is out? I'm busy with the AIOI. Cannot help. Max! w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Orion Pobursky - 2017-01-04 (2017-01-03, 15:36)Philippe Hurbain Wrote:Should be a simple permissions issue. I'll look into it today or tomorrow.Quote:PS. Philo could you please update the visual config http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html once the update is out? RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Max Martin Richter - 2017-01-04 (2017-01-04, 16:53)Willy Tschager Wrote:(2017-01-03, 15:36)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: It seems I am not allowed to edit this page... I changed Article 547 to the new visalldconfig.png and changed the link to Philo's brickshelf folder... /Max RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2017-01-04 (2017-01-04, 16:52)Willy Tschager Wrote:(2017-01-03, 17:02)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: Happy new year to all of you. I've seen the mappings. 335 would be our next color to address. Shall I add the mapping to the inital post? So Long Sven RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2017-01-12 Shall we proceed with the next color? RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2017-01-12 (2017-01-12, 18:12)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: Shall we proceed with the next color?Ready when you are. w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2017-01-24 Next one Currently no images, because "Parts and Pieces" search is offline until February My own Data Lego ID: 184 Lego Name: MET. BR. RED MY guessed name: : Metallic Bright Red http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html LEGO ID: 147 (Metallic Bright Red) Seems like a mismatch, 147 is "Metallic Sand Yellow" Ldraw ID: 63 Ldraw Name: Chrome_Pink RGB: #AA4D8E http://wiki.ldraw.org/index.php?title=User:Owen_Burgoyne/LDraw_Colour_Comparison_Chart Lego ID: 184 Bricklink id: na Bricklink Name: na Ldraw Name: Red Lego Name: Metallic Bright Red RGB: #D60026 http://www.peeron.com/inv/colors no match found http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=868566 Lego ID: 184 Bricklink id: na Bricklink Name: na Lego Name: Metallic Bright Red http://rebrickable.com/colors Lego ID: 184 Ldraw ID: 4 Bricklink ID: 5 Lego Name: MET. BR. RED. Rebrickable Name: Reddish Lilac RGB: #C91A09 http://swooshable.com/parts/colors Lego ID: 184 Ldraw ID: na Bricklink ID: na Bricklink Name: na Lego name: Metallic Bright Red RGB: #D60026 This is a tough one. We kind of have an issue with the already existing ldraw id 63. It is stated that ldraw id belongs to LEGO id 147. And LEGO 147 is mentioned as "Metallic Bright Red". From my investigations I'm pretty sure that 147 should be Metallic Sand Yellow, which can also be found multiple times in the Ldraw color list "http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html". The good thing is, that 184 is still available as Ldraw ID. Therefore we could fix this. So Long Sven RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2017-01-31 What I propose is creating 2 new colors: 184 - Metallic Bright Red - #D60026 147- Metallic Sand Yellow - #83724F and: leave 63 Chrome_Pink as legacy with no match https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15075763049/in/photostream/ w. need to resolve duplicate color problem - Steffen - 2017-02-02 Hi, are you aware of the color clash created by update 2016-01 ? This problem still needs resolution...: Quote:0 // LEGOID 219 - Lilac RE: need to resolve duplicate color problem - Willy Tschager - 2017-02-03 (2017-02-02, 23:06)Steffen Wrote: Hi, No, but I'll look into it. w. RE: need to resolve duplicate color problem - Philippe Hurbain - 2017-02-03 (2017-02-03, 9:22)Willy Tschager Wrote:So looks like you missed it... https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-21969-post-24272.html#pid24272(2017-02-02, 23:06)Steffen Wrote: Hi, RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2017-02-07 (2017-01-31, 20:09)Willy Tschager Wrote: What I propose is creating 2 new colors: Ok, thank you. I did as you suggested. So Long Sven RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2017-02-07 Next one Bion. Foot My own Data Lego ID: 186 Lego Name: MET. DK. GREEN MY guessed name: : Metallic Dark Green http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html LEGO ID: 147 (Metallic Dark Green) Seems like a mismatch, 147 is used "Metallic Sand Yellow" Ldraw ID: 63 Ldraw Name: Chrome_Green RGB: #3CB371 http://wiki.ldraw.org/index.php?title=Us...ison_Chart Lego ID: 186 Bricklink id: na Bricklink Name: na Ldraw Name: Green Lego Name: Metallic Bright Red RGB: #008E3C http://www.peeron.com/inv/colors no match found http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=868566 Lego ID: 186 Bricklink id: na Bricklink Name: na Lego Name: Metallic Dark Green http://rebrickable.com/colors Lego ID: 186 Ldraw ID: 2 Bricklink ID: 6 Lego Name: MET. BR. RED. Rebrickable Name: Green RGB: #237841 http://swooshable.com/parts/colors Lego ID: 186 Ldraw ID: na Bricklink ID: na Bricklink Name: na Lego name: Metallic Green RGB: #008E3C This one is also somehow confusing. It seems like there is already a matching color (Ldraw 63), but it points like the color before to LegoID 147. Shall we just map LegoID 186 to Ldraw 62? So Long Sven RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2017-02-07 (2017-02-07, 13:14)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote:(2017-01-31, 20:09)Willy Tschager Wrote: What I propose is creating 2 new colors: Don't forget to add a not for 147 and 63 to your list. w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2017-02-07 (2017-02-07, 13:14)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote:(2017-01-31, 20:09)Willy Tschager Wrote: What I propose is creating 2 new colors: Don't forget to add a not for 147 and 63 to your list ... hang on ... 147 - Metallic Sand Yellow is already mapped to 178 - Flat Dark Gold and it is better to leave it as it is. w. RE: need to resolve duplicate color problem - Willy Tschager - 2017-02-07 (2017-02-03, 10:25)Philippe Hurbain Wrote:(2017-02-03, 9:22)Willy Tschager Wrote: No, but I'll look into it.So looks like you missed it... https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-21969-post-24272.html#pid24272 To sort out all this Violet-Purple-Lilac mismatch I propose to stick to the LEGO nomenclature and rename all the colors linked to "Lilac" actually "Lilac" such as: 197 - Bright Reddish Lilac 218 - Reddish Lilac 219 - Lilac 268 - Medium Lilac ... w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2017-02-07 No, we strip whatever is mapped from 62 and leave "Chrome green" without a match. Create a new entry for 186. We have two 147 so there must be a mistake. w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2017-02-08 (2017-02-07, 17:00)Willy Tschager Wrote: No, we strip whatever is mapped from 62 and leave "Chrome green" without a match. Create a new entry for 186. So this should be the entry for 186? LEGO color: 186 | Metallic Dark Green => Ldraw: 186 | Chrome_Green - VALUE #3CB371 - EDGE #007735 So Long Sven RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2017-02-08 No. LDraw: 62 | Chrome_Green - VALUE #3CB371 - EDGE #007735 - Material CHROME LEGO color: 186 | Metallic Dark Green => LDraw: 186 | Metallic_Dark_Green - VALUE #008E3C - EDGE #333333 - Material PEARLESCENT w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2017-02-21 Last one Comb 2x2 with 4 holes My own Data Lego ID: 284 Lego Name: Tr. Red-Lilac MY guessed name: Transparent Reddish Lilac http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html no match found http://wiki.ldraw.org/index.php?title=Us...ison_Chart Lego ID: 284 Bricklink id: na Bricklink Name: na Ldraw Name: na Lego Name: Tr Reddish Lilac RGB: #E1D7E1 http://www.peeron.com/inv/colors no match found http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=868566 Lego ID: 284 Bricklink id: 114 Bricklink Name: Trans Light Purple Lego Name: Transparent Reddish Lilac http://rebrickable.com/colors Lego ID: 284 Ldraw ID: 44 Bricklink ID: 114 Lego Name: TR. RED-LILAC Rebrickable Name: Trans-Light Purple RGB: #96709F http://swooshable.com/parts/colors Lego ID: 284 Ldraw ID: na Bricklink ID: na Bricklink Name: na Lego name: Transparent Reddish Lilac RGB: #E0D0E5 Well, this is the last one for now. We have a free LDraw ID and no known mismatch with other colors. There are three possible RGB values. Therefore we can choose which one fits the most. So Long Sven RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Merlijn Wissink - 2017-03-01 Any update on this one? RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2017-03-01 (2017-03-01, 8:40)Merlijn Wissink Wrote: Any update on this one? At least not from my side ;( RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2017-03-03 Sorry for the delay. Use the rebrickable color which is closer to what I measured with PS and 59425e for the edge. w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Sven v. Beuningen - 2017-03-18 Finally I think we're done. Thank you very much for the support. I still have about 60 unknown colors in the background, but they are all so called "Multicombination" colors and I think they are a little bit hard to track down. So Long Sven RE: need to resolve duplicate color problem - Steffen - 2017-03-21 is this issue resolved now? RE: need to resolve duplicate color problem - Willy Tschager - 2017-03-21 (2017-03-21, 15:26)Steffen Wrote: is this issue resolved now? With renaming the colors to Licac it will be. w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Willy Tschager - 2017-03-26 Hi, I have added the missing colors and tried to fix the purple/violet mismatch by renaming some LDraw colors "Lilac". Furthermore I added blanks after the slashes in the LEGO names. Please check: LDConfig.ldr (Size: 28.45 KB / Downloads: 15) w. RE: Missing Ldraw Colors - Merlijn Wissink - 2017-06-06 Does this color exist in LDraw? If not, would it even be necessary to add it? Lego ID: 220 Lego Name: Light Lilac Here's a tiny bit of information on Brickset. It seems to be a pretty rare color. |