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Why do we care about this again? I came across this comment from Chris and it got me thinking:
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...04589j.dat
I think consistency within the Architecture tiles alone would make letter prims useful but I forgot why we cared enough to stop.
(2022-09-05, 4:04)Orion Pobursky Wrote: [ -> ]Why do we care about this again? I came across this comment from Chris and it got me thinking:
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...04589j.dat
I think consistency within the Architecture tiles alone would make letter prims useful but I forgot why we cared enough to stop.

I think it was because it is easier to use txt2dat than to manually position primitives. Manually positioned ones might also have incorrect kerning (although I guess there's no guarantee that the kerning from txt2dat matches the original parts).
(2022-09-05, 4:04)Orion Pobursky Wrote: [ -> ]Why do we care about this again? I came across this comment from Chris and it got me thinking:
https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.c...04589j.dat
I think consistency within the Architecture tiles alone would make letter prims useful but I forgot why we cared enough to stop.

We tried to squeezes the fonts into standardized quads (A REALLY STUPID IDEA) which affected kerning especially on lower case letters instead of designing the room around the font to its need.

w.
(2022-09-05, 6:33)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]We tried to squeezes the fonts into standardized quads (A REALLY STUPID IDEA) which affected kerning especially on lower case letters instead of designing the room around the font to its need.

w.

I still think these prims are a Good Idea ™ but how do we do it right?
(2022-09-05, 14:35)Orion Pobursky Wrote: [ -> ]I still think these prims are a Good Idea ™ but how do we do it right?

You misunderstud my comment. The prims are fine, trying to squeeze them into a quad is stupid. The current helvetica should be obsoleted the new fonts should allow kerning on A, P, l, i getting away from the blocky background (and using a higher resolution as the current fonts).

w.
IMO,
They should be treated as templates, to be used by an author as he/she sees fit. A quick way to get a correct letter.
They are not mandatory to use. Nor is it mandatory, but recommended, to use them inlined.


Completing the set/font we have. Good idea.
Adding more fonts as templates. Not so good, unless we can prove it is very commonly used.
(2022-09-05, 15:40)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: [ -> ]IMO,
They should be treated as templates, to be used by an author as he/she sees fit. A quick way to get a correct letter.

And in addition, a way to get a scalable letter. Glyphs should be made of curved prims where appropriate, rather than tris & quads, so they can render at any size with prim substitution. They should also (and maybe they already do) use the text baseline as an origin.
(2022-09-05, 4:04)Orion Pobursky Wrote: [ -> ]I think consistency within the Architecture tiles alone would make letter prims useful but I forgot why we cared enough to stop.

It looks like the Architecture tiles have converted to a new typeface. Is it more about compiling a set in this new font, or retrofitting the existing tiles (and thus, also any other existing parts using that same font)?
(2022-09-05, 16:12)N. W. Perry Wrote: [ -> ]It looks like the Architecture tiles have converted to a new typeface. Is it more about compiling a set in this new font, or retrofitting the existing tiles (and thus, also any other existing parts using that same font)?

Considering that most of the tile don't use the correct font and the conversion is only 2 sets in, it's mostly for correctness and consistency.
My brain isn't working today apparently. Can you submit a proposal in simple term with examples? Nothing fancy just get me to understand.
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