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I was building this nice bookcase from a video I found from Tiago Catarino.

In real life LEGO 20482 (brown here) fits perfectly and the peg hole aligns:
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But, in LDraw see illustrated here (20482 in light grey for better contrast) does not align with the peg hole
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Isn't the edge of the peg hole of part 11458 too thin? Or is 20482 too thick?
(2020-11-06, 10:45)Jaco van der Molen Wrote: [ -> ]I was building this nice bookcase from a video I found from Tiago Catarino.

In real life LEGO 20482 (brown here) fits perfectly and the peg hole aligns:


But, in LDraw see illustrated here (20482 in light grey for better contrast) does not align with the peg hole


Isn't the edge of the peg hole of part 11458 too thin? Or is 20482 too thick?

I also have the feeling the edge on the side where the peg hole is, is a bit too thick. In real LEGO this is a minimal edge.
They are not the same diameter... 11458 diameter is 7.4mm (radius 9.25 ldu) while nipple tile is 7.85mm (radius 9.8ldu). and models are rounded down to 9 ldu for 11458 and up to 10 ldu for 20482.

...and there is another practical issue: as I tested here, 20482 doesn't hold well on a technic pin!

Quote:I also have the feeling the edge on the side where the peg hole is, is a bit too thick. In real LEGO this is a minimal edge.
Not sure what you mean?
(2020-11-06, 14:55)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: [ -> ]They are not the same diameter... 11458 diameter is 7.4mm (radius 9.25 ldu) while nipple tile is 7.85mm (radius 9.8ldu). and models are rounded down to 9 ldu for 11458 and up to 10 ldu for 20482.

...and there is another practical issue: as I tested here, 20482 doesn't hold well on a technic pin!

Not sure what you mean?

OK, I must admit, I have not build it for real, but this suggests otherwise

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That is does not really hold is not an issue in the model.
(2020-11-06, 10:56)Jaco van der Molen Wrote: [ -> ]I also have the feeling the edge on the side where the peg hole is, is a bit too thick. In real LEGO this is a minimal edge.

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Oh yes... same issue, plate part is not really 16mm wide, but is modeled as such, and technic beam is a bit wider IRL than the modeled 9LDU diameter...
(2020-11-08, 8:14)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: [ -> ]Oh yes... same issue, plate part is not really 16mm wide, but is modeled as such, and technic beam is a bit wider IRL than the modeled 9LDU diameter...

OK, then should (can) it be adjusted or is rounding an absolute must?
Maybe I will just scale the tile to make it look more close to the real thing for this particular model.
(2020-11-08, 9:43)Jaco van der Molen Wrote: [ -> ]OK, then should (can) it be adjusted or is rounding an absolute must?
Maybe I will just scale the tile to make it look more close to the real thing for this particular model.

We had the same issue on this part, 85943:

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There the beam had to stay at 9ldu, and the difference was hidden with a slope.
These parts suffer from the same consequences then?
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I personally dislike this very much.
Why don't we make these so that they align?

Part 75535 seems to work just fine. What differs that one from this 62462 one?
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In RL LEGO these parts are the same diameter, are they not?
(2020-11-06, 14:55)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: [ -> ]They are not the same diameter... 11458 diameter is 7.4mm (radius 9.25 ldu) while nipple tile is 7.85mm (radius 9.8ldu). and models are rounded down to 9 ldu for 11458 and up to 10 ldu for 20482.

How can this be? I now have the parts here in my hands and if you look close you can see a very slight difference, but certainly not 0.45 mm?
Rubbing your nail over it you can feel it. The same goes for the edge I mentioned earlier.
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Using the same color for 11458 and 20482 viewed from a distance the difference is neglectable IMHO.

However, I have a very strong feeling that 75535 and 62462 are really the same diameter.
I have those now in my hands too, connected with a pin and I can feel nor see no difference.
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