We translated Lilac with Purple. See Bright Reddish Lilac, Medium Lilac, therefore this should become Medium Purple. As for the edge the usual #333333 should be appropriate.
w.
BTW, you should also add the original LEGO color name to your chart to ease future identification, see
http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html
(2016-10-06, 11:36)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]As for the edge the usual #333333 should be appropriate.
Please create new edge colours for the alternative file too, ldcfgalt.ldr
(2016-10-06, 21:10)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: [ -> ] (2016-10-06, 11:36)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]As for the edge the usual #333333 should be appropriate.
Please create new edge colours for the alternative file too, ldcfgalt.ldr
I would love if you could help me out on this since I do not have any intention to get
creative.
w.
I'm fine with the name. As for the RGB I'd go with swooshable. Measuring the color in PS I get values close to [size=large]#FBE890[/size] (since it is a transparent part it is hard to figure out what is the gray background and what is overlay). As for the edge use #baab6a
w.
While we are working on LDConfig.ldr, I'd like to see RGB value of main color (16) to be changed to something more "visible" than current gray, which is very easy to confuse with Light Gray or LBG. See this
discussion for more details... I suggest to use
#ffff80, a color I use for years as default color for LDView.
Other opinions/suggestions?
(2016-10-13, 18:48)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: [ -> ]While we are working on LDConfig.ldr, I'd like to see RGB value of main color (16) to be changed to something more "visible" than current gray, which is very easy to confuse with Light Gray or LBG. See this discussion for more details... I suggest to use #ffff80, a color I use for years as default color for LDView.
Other opinions/suggestions?
This means, that I need to change my background from white to another colour too. :-)
(2016-10-14, 7:39)Max Martin Richter Wrote: [ -> ]This means, that I need to change my background from white to another colour too. :-)
Not forced. I use white background. I agree that the text preview here seems overexposed, but with shading it works really well (at least in LDView).
(2016-10-13, 18:48)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: [ -> ]While we are working on LDConfig.ldr, I'd like to see RGB value of main color (16) to be changed to something more "visible" than current gray, which is very easy to confuse with Light Gray or LBG. See this discussion for more details... I suggest to use #ffff80, a color I use for years as default color for LDView.
Other opinions/suggestions?
It's close to Bright_Light_Yellow but I think being similar to Light_Gray is much worse. I'm fine with it.
w.
Quote:It's close to Bright_Light_Yellow but I think being similar to Light_Gray is much worse. I'm fine with it.
It's indeed difficult to choose a color not close of an existing one in LEGO palette - just need to find one not as ubiquitous as LG/LBG!
We shouldn't be too fast to change this color, it seems to trigger issues with some software - albeit not major ones:
- LDPE does show the modified color in the color bar, but a part in main color remain gray
- In LDCad, unused space in color wheel takes the color of main color and becomes yellow.
How about LDView and DatHeader/LDFind/LDStructure?
I can't make them show that yellow colour.
Preview icons in Windows are still created grey by LDView.
Or do I still have issues from having software in the wrong folder?
I have a copy of ldconfig.ldr in the VirtualStore-folder downloaded by DatHeader
Quote:How about LDView and DatHeader/LDFind/LDStructure?
I can't make them show that yellow colour.
LDView (and Mike's tools that use LDView DLL) use "default color" defined in LDView preference instead of LDConfig color 16.
Quote:Preview icons in Windows are still created grey by LDView.
This depends on LDView "thumbnails" preference set.
(2016-10-12, 6:20)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]I'm fine with the name. As for the RGB I'd go with swooshable. Measuring the color in PS I get values close to [size=large]#FBE890[/size] (since it is a transparent part it is hard to figure out what is the gray background and what is overlay). As for the edge use #baab6a
w.
Sven,
go ahead with this one.
w.
(2016-10-11, 18:50)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]I would love if you could help me out on this since I do not have any intention to get creative.
I could do that if I would understand how to. I tried to recreate the edge colour from the examples above and failed.
Light colours should have darker edges, and darker colours have lighter edges. Right?
You said above "brightness is reduced by 25%". There is a big difference between "reduce by 25 percent" and "reduce by 25 percentage points"
Could you show me an online tool that could be used. I don't have Photoshop.
What do you mean by "creative"? Are you telling me there is no ruling idea behind the alternative edge colours?
(2016-10-16, 11:05)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: [ -> ]I could do that if I would understand how to. I tried to recreate the edge colour from the examples above and failed.
Light colours should have darker edges, and darker colours have lighter edges. Right?
You said above "brightness is reduced by 25%". There is a big difference between "reduce by 25 percent" and "reduce by 25 percentage points"
Could you show me an online tool that could be used. I don't have Photoshop.
Sure:
http://www.webme.co.uk/web-tools/color-picker.php
http://onlinewebtool.com/colorpicker.php
Insert a hex and if B says for example 76 move B to 51 to get your edge color.
(2016-10-16, 11:05)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: [ -> ]What do you mean by "creative"? Are you telling me there is no ruling idea behind the alternative edge colours?
Don't ask me, I haven't worked on the alternative LDConfig. My guessing is that some values have been copied form the old LDConfig, while the criteria for the rest was, well, taste. Therefore your first step should be working out some rules for you. If I remember correctly we used a brighter edge line for the LDconfig.ldr on the dark colors when B droped below 33%.
w.
Thanks, looks like good tools. I'll get creative.
(2016-10-16, 7:34)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ] (2016-10-12, 6:20)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]I'm fine with the name. As for the RGB I'd go with swooshable. Measuring the color in PS I get values close to [size=large]#FBE890[/size] (since it is a transparent part it is hard to figure out what is the gray background and what is overlay). As for the edge use #baab6a
w.
Sven,
go ahead with this one.
w.
Ok here it is:
LEGO color: 234 | Transparent Fire Yellow => Ldraw: 218 | Trans_Fire_Yellow VALUE #FBE890 - EDGE #baab6a
(2016-10-18, 15:42)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: [ -> ]It seems that there only exists one piece in this color. [color=#333333]Unfortunately there is no image of any part in this color by TLG 
. The only color information we have is from swooshable. The good thing is, that 295 is available as ldraw id. If we decide to use the swooshable color. Should we take "Bright Pink" as name?[/color]
We've already got a Bright_Pink:
// LEGOID 222 - Light Purple
!COLOUR Bright_Pink CODE 29 VALUE[color=black] #E4ADC8
According to Swoosh this is a retired color so we should stick to Flamingo Pink.
w.
[/color]
[color=white]#333333[/color]
(2016-10-18, 19:28)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ] (2016-10-18, 15:42)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: [ -> ]It seems that there only exists one piece in this color. [color=#333333]Unfortunately there is no image of any part in this color by TLG . The only color information we have is from swooshable. The good thing is, that 295 is available as ldraw id. If we decide to use the swooshable color. Should we take "Bright Pink" as name?[/color]
We've already got a Bright_Pink:
// LEGOID 222 - Light Purple
!COLOUR Bright_Pink CODE 29 VALUE[color=black] #E4ADC8
According to Swoosh this is a retired color so we should stick to Flamingo Pink.
w.
[/color]
[color=white]#333333[/color]
Looks like a go:
LEGO color: 295 | [color=#333333][size=small]Flamingo Pink[/size] => Ldraw: 295 | [color=black]Flamingo Pink[/color] - VALUE[color=black] #FF94C2 -[/color] EDGE #333333
w.
[/color]
The main problem is that we have a total mismatch between Lilac, Pink, Violet and Purple, but it cannot be solved without breaking the links to BL. I would therefore go with BLs "Medium Violet"
w.
(2016-10-24, 19:00)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]The main problem is that we have a total mismatch between Lilac, Pink, Violet and Purple, but it cannot be solved without breaking the links to BL. I would therefore go with BLs "Medium Violet"
w.
May I asked why it would be a big issue to break/rework the links with BL if we could clean up stuff?
So Long
Sven
(2016-10-25, 18:22)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: [ -> ] (2016-10-24, 19:00)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]The main problem is that we have a total mismatch between Lilac, Pink, Violet and Purple, but it cannot be solved without breaking the links to BL. I would therefore go with BLs "Medium Violet"
w.
May I asked why it would be a big issue to break/rework the links with BL if we could clean up stuff?
So Long
Sven
Because many use the LDraw System of Tools to prototype and the resulting parts list as shopping list for BL. It wouldn't make much sense to clean up stuff for the sake that we know the fan created charts are wrong and we know better.
w.
Ok, got it. Then let's go with Medium Violet. What about the colors? Shall we go with Swooshable #564E9D?
So Long
Sven
(2016-10-27, 18:52)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, got it. Then let's go with Medium Violet. What about the colors? Shall we go with Swooshable #564E9D?
So Long
Sven
Yepp, do so.
w.
(2016-10-28, 8:53)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ] (2016-10-27, 18:52)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, got it. Then let's go with Medium Violet. What about the colors? Shall we go with Swooshable #564E9D?
So Long
Sven
Yepp, do so.
w.
Here it is:
LEGO color: 219 | Lilac => Ldraw: 219 | [color=black]Medium[/color] Violet VALUE[color=black] #564E9D -[/color] EDGE #333333
What I don't understand is that we have 3 different LEGO IDs (depending on source) for this color ??? (336/219/1003)
(2016-10-29, 18:18)Philippe Hurbain Wrote: [ -> ]What I don't understand is that we have 3 different LEGO IDs (depending on source) for this color ??? (336/219/1003)
As far as I know 1003 is a ID which is taken by rebrickable, because they didn't know the number. I did not get any number higher than 999 from TLG.
336 is Silver Ink from TLG
219 is mistake from the last color. I'll just correct it.
So Long
Sven
According to the timeline and the photo stream at swooshable this is a chrome color and we should simply map it to 309 - Metalized Silver, LDraw 383.
w.
Next one
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RING 14,7 - POLISHED
My own Data
Lego ID: 293
Lego Name: TR.L.ROYAL BLUE
MY guessed name: [color=#333333]Transparent Light Royal Blue[/color]
http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html
No match found
http://wiki.ldraw.org/index.php?title=Us...ison_Chart
No match found
http://www.peeron.com/inv/colors
No match found
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=868566
Lego ID: 293
Lego Name: Transparent Light Royal Blue
http://rebrickable.com/colors
Lego ID: 293
Ldraw ID: na
Bricklink ID: na
Lego Name: [color=#333333][size=small]TR.L.ROYAL BLUE[/size][/color]
Rebrickable Name: Trans Light Royal Blue
RGB: #B4D4F7
http://swooshable.com/parts/colors
Lego ID: 293
Ldraw ID: na
Bricklink ID: na
Bricklink Name: na
Lego name: Transparent Light Royal Blue
RGB: #6BABE4
Here we have another transparent piece. It's a rare color and only a few information available. 293 is a free ldraw id. The Royal Blue colors are mapped to different ldraw names (Blue_violet, Light_blue), therefore we can't simply adopt the name. Because it is a "light" color we could go with "Trans_Light_Blue". At least from my point of view it would fit. For RGB values we have swooshable and rebrickable as different options.
So Long
Sven
According to our nomenclatura for "Royal" this becomes:
Trans_Light_Blue_Violet
The darker swooshable RGB is closer to the photostream but it's up to you.
w.
(2016-11-05, 9:23)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]According to our nomenclatura for "Royal" this becomes:
Trans_Light_Blue_Violet
The darker swooshable RGB is closer to the photostream but it's up to you.
w.
Ok, then I would suggest to do it this way:
LEGO color: 293 | [color=#333333]Transparent Light Royal Blue => Ldraw: 293 | Trans_Light_Blue_VioletVALUE #6BABE4- EDGE #??????[/color]
Only Edge is missing.
So Long
Sven
Next one
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RING 14,7 - POLISHED
My own Data
Lego ID: 227
Lego Name: TR. BR. YEL GR
MY guessed name: Transparent Bright Yellowish Green
http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html
No match found
http://wiki.ldraw.org/index.php?title=Us...ison_Chart
Lego ID: 227
Lego Name: Tr. Bright Yellowish Green
RGB: #D4E5AB
http://www.peeron.com/inv/colors
No match found
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=868566
Lego ID: 227
Lego Name: Transparent Bright Yellowish Green
http://rebrickable.com/colors
Lego ID: 227
Ldraw ID: 35
Bricklink ID: 108
Lego Name: TR. BR. YEL GR
Rebrickable Name: Trans-Bright Green
RGB: #D9E4A7
http://swooshable.com/parts/colors
Lego ID: 227
Ldraw ID: na
Bricklink ID: 108
Bricklink Name: na
Lego name: Transparent Light Yellowish Green
RGB: #C9E788
Well, here we go. As far as I know, this color does only exists in one single part. The good thing is, that the Ldraw ID 227 is free. Unfortunately we have three RGB values to choose from. Rebrickable already maps this color to Ldraw 35 (Trans Bright Green). Ldraw 35 is at the same time Lego ID 311 (Transparent Light green) which does fit better from my point of view.
So it's open for discussion how to deal with this one.
So Long
Sven
[quote pid='23761' dateline='1478633447']
Well, here we go. As far as I know, this color does only exists in one single part. The good thing is, that the Ldraw ID 227 is free. Unfortunately we have three RGB values to choose from. Rebrickable already maps this color to Ldraw 35 (Trans Bright Green). Ldraw 35 is at the same time Lego ID 311 (Transparent Light green) which does fit better from my point of view.
So it's open for discussion how to deal with this one.
[/quote]
According to the time table this is out of production and personally I would map it to LDraw 35 Trans Bright Green.
w.
(2016-11-10, 14:17)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ][quote pid='23761' dateline='1478633447']
Well, here we go. As far as I know, this color does only exists in one single part. The good thing is, that the Ldraw ID 227 is free. Unfortunately we have three RGB values to choose from. Rebrickable already maps this color to Ldraw 35 (Trans Bright Green). Ldraw 35 is at the same time Lego ID 311 (Transparent Light green) which does fit better from my point of view.
So it's open for discussion how to deal with this one.
According to the time table this is out of production and personally I would map it to LDraw 35 Trans Bright Green.
w.
[/quote]
Ok I mapped it to 35.
So Long
Sven
Map it to a new color number and use the Swooshable RGB which come close to what I measure in PS.
w.
(2016-11-11, 11:04)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]Map it to a new color number and use the Swooshable RGB which come close to what I measure in PS.
w.
Go ahead.
w.
(2016-11-16, 8:26)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ] (2016-11-11, 11:04)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]Map it to a new color number and use the Swooshable RGB which come close to what I measure in PS.
w.
Go ahead.
w.
Sorry, too much stuff to do. I'll add the next one.
So Long
Sven
Next one
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AXE HEAD W HOLE 3.2, DRUM LAQU
My own Data
Lego ID: 300
Lego Name: COPPER, DR.LA.
MY guessed name: [color=#333333][size=small]Copper Drum Lacq[/size][/color]
http://www.ldraw.org/article/547.html
No match found
http://wiki.ldraw.org/index.php?title=Us...ison_Chart
no match found
http://www.peeron.com/inv/colors
no match found
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=868566
Lego ID: 300
Lego Name: Copper, Drum Lacquered matte copper surface coating
http://rebrickable.com/colors
Lego ID: 134
Ldraw ID: 134
Bricklink ID: 84
Lego Name: COPPER, DR.LA.
Rebrickable Name: Copper
RGB: #AE7A59
http://swooshable.com/parts/colors
Lego ID: 300
Ldraw ID: na
Bricklink ID: na
Bricklink Name: na
Lego name: Copper, Drum Lacquered
RGB: #C47949
Here's a new challenge. Only sparse information available. LDraw ID is free. I think the information from rebrickable is somehow wrong. I know for sure that "COPPER, DR.LA." is Lego ID 300. Therefore I wouldn't give much about the RGB value from Rebrickable. I would go with Swooshable. Also their Lego name does make more sense than mine. So I suggest to use LDraw ID 300 and for the name some speckle color. Speckle_Copper? But there is also a "Speckle_Black_Copper".
So Long
Sven
(2016-11-16, 19:07)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a new challenge. Only sparse information available. LDraw ID is free. I think the information from rebrickable is somehow wrong. I know for sure that "COPPER, DR.LA." is Lego ID 300. Therefore I wouldn't give much about the RGB value from Rebrickable. I would go with Swooshable. Also their Lego name does make more sense than mine. So I suggest to use LDraw ID 300 and for the name some speckle color. Speckle_Copper? But there is also a "Speckle_Black_Copper".
So Long
Sven
No, it should be "Metallic_Copper". It's a metallic paint mainly used on patterned parts.
we already have
Lego Cool Silver Drum Laquer as LDraw Metallic_Silver
Lego Warm Gold Drum Laquer as LDraw Metallic_Gold
I think #C47949 is too dark. To me its more like #DC9150
(2016-11-16, 23:20)Magnus Forsberg Wrote: [ -> ] (2016-11-16, 19:07)Sven v. Beuningen Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a new challenge. Only sparse information available. LDraw ID is free. I think the information from rebrickable is somehow wrong. I know for sure that "COPPER, DR.LA." is Lego ID 300. Therefore I wouldn't give much about the RGB value from Rebrickable. I would go with Swooshable. Also their Lego name does make more sense than mine. So I suggest to use LDraw ID 300 and for the name some speckle color. Speckle_Copper? But there is also a "Speckle_Black_Copper".
So Long
Sven
No, it should be "Metallic_Copper". It's a metallic paint mainly used on patterned parts.
we already have
Lego Cool Silver Drum Laquer as LDraw Metallic_Silver
Lego Warm Gold Drum Laquer as LDraw Metallic_Gold
I think #C47949 is too dark. To me its more like #DC9150
I'm also fine with "Metallic_Copper". Willy, what do you think?
So Long
Sven
Here's a pic with the proposed colors:
[
attachment=2613]
the color in the middle has been measured in PS. The rest is fine with me.
w.
If it's okay with you go with:
189 - Reddish Gold and use the swooshable RGB (rebrickable is too brownish). Don't forget to add a PEARLESCENT statement
w.
(2016-11-26, 15:48)Willy Tschager Wrote: [ -> ]If it's okay with you go with:
189 - Reddish Gold and use the swooshable RGB (rebrickable is too brownish). Don't forget to add a PEARLESCENT statement
w.
Ok thank you.
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