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maybe here is a way to reach him: http://www.youtube.com/user/marakoeschtra

(just BTW: his creations are so incredibly awesome, just look here:

Farm: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=275447

Garbage Truck: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=211616

Scott, could you please help us here in this issue?

Some last word from your side and from the other color experts might be helpful here.

Whatever is decided, the decision will affect some official and unofficial parts to be corrected.

But we need better systematics here. Currently, our library contains an inconsistent usage of these colors.
Where's the opposing argument? I have already backed the color chart that Philo put together.

I think the path forward is pretty simple...If the part in question is listed on Bricklink, then Bricklink will tell you which color(s) can be used. This matching is possible now that our color names match their color names. Since Bricklink's business is of buying and selling real parts, they tend to get these things right almost 100% of the time.
there is no opposing argument.

after I saw the comparison sheet above, my original suggestion was proven wrong,
and I changed my mind.

I just was asking for a last confirmation,
because the decision requires changing a bunch of currently official files,
as well as unofficial ones currently on the PT.

May I ask for some documentation at
about the colors in general, and especially the metal variants?
Scott, Chris, maybe LSC,

I would like to get a final "go" from your side for this color change.

It will mean that we have to touch/correct a bunch of both official and unofficial files.

Steffen, you should go forward using your best judgment in each situation that requires a change to a file.

that's what I anyway do: never apply a rule just because it's a rule.

However, what I've been asking here is not exactly that,
but instead if we should apply the above table.

For this I need a definitive "yes" or "no" from preferredly both you and Chris
before I'd like to proceed.

The decision will affect e.g. the 12V train parts here:

and the battery boxes here:

, and maybe some more files currently using color 383 or 494.
I've now found the time to look at this and I agree with the suggestion. Attached is a list (as of 2011-12-07) of official and unofficial files that use colour codes 80, 135, 179, 383 and 494.
Thank you very much, I'll now proceed applying that table.
Quote from http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cg...243c02.dat

Philo said:
"Now I'm lost! why use 494 for this part which is not an electrical contact? Why not 383???
...or do we consider that 494 goes on all metallic part (even if they are chromed) and 383 is used only for chromed ABS?"

I don't want to "throw more gravel in the machine", but I too wonder
if there are more then one "shade" of metal.

After looking at this picture I must agree with Philo.
The shaft should use 494, but the spring 383?

Perhaps we could accept that colour 383 sometimes is used on very shiny/reflective metalparts.
It is, after all, only our way of creating a visual impression of something silvery.
And chromium plating is used on both plastic and metal.
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